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AIP-551: TOY3 - AN RWA POP TOY PROJECT FOR THE APE COIN ECOSYSTEM
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Oct. 30, 2024, 12:39 a.m.
Content: Love this! And seeing the approach where founders are putting half the cost…
We need to normalize more of this.
Great job Oldwon!
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AIP-543: Brand Expansion Marketing Initiative
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Oct. 10, 2024, 8:36 p.m.
Content: Good seeing this coming to life Lucas!!
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Path forward for a mini grant?
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Oct. 8, 2024, 2:30 p.m.
Content: Dave… Yes, you are correct that while AIP- 466 is working its way through the system, certain administrative precautions have been put into place with the GWG.
Also, although I can’t directly comment on anything related to ThankAPE, I can suggest that this proposal would have no implications on their programs — but I do believe you may also have a GWG small grant submission, so I’m curious if this may be what you’re referencing.
As far as APE_U goes, we’re only growing stronger and the program only 5 months into a 12 month inaugural season, but we are taking a cautious approach to the start dates of our next cohort to be sure that everything our initiative offers can continue providing the most up-to-date education models on the DAO, where structure and processes certainly matter.
I’ll send over a DM this afternoon with my Calendly link so we can hop on a 1 : 1 call to discuss the status of your applications with the GWG later in the week. You’ve been an outstanding addition to the ApeCoin community and we’d love to have you part of our programs so long as they are continuing to operate :muscle::muscle:
AC
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Is it cool to reapply for a mini grant after being rejected?
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Oct. 5, 2024, 6:59 p.m.
Content: Appreciate the ping.
A few resources to get you started…
APE_U Information Bank:
Notion
Notion – The all-in-one workspace for your notes, tasks, wikis, and databases.
A new tool that blends your everyday work apps into one. It's the all-in-one workspace for you and your team
APE_U Waitlist for Upcoming Cohorts:
Airtable
Airtable | Everyone's app platform
Airtable is a low-code platform for building collaborative apps. Customize your workflow, collaborate, and achieve ambitious outcomes. Get started for free.
You can also check out our fortnightly Spaces co-hosted with Open Campus on the GWG Twitter account.
Let me know if that helps!
AC
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Boring Annual Awards
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Oct. 3, 2024, 12:57 a.m.
Content: I knda like this tbh…
Low cost. Good way to unify the community with something fun to rally around. I would just hope to see some steady marketing around it, so that we make sure that people actually know what it is and care about it.
Funnn.
AC
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No more dumb sh__t.
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Sept. 30, 2024, 9:48 a.m.
Content: Appreciate this fam.
At the end of the day, I would hate to see all the work that’s been done be forgotten or cheapened in any way, which is how it felt when the proposal went up. But I don’t necessarily believe that it will anymore. And you’re right — look at the aftermath of all of this, as it is definitely not how we should want our DAO operating.
It honestly makes me sad to see, because when it all boils down, I’m here for ApeCoin, and ApeCoin DAO. And to recognize and act, to the best of my ability, on what’s best for it.
Ironically, on a personal level, I had been working with three separate groups, brainstorming ways to address the Working Group shortcomings — one formally within the GWG, and two a little more casually.
Moving forward, I think we all need to learn from this and improve how we communicate with one another for a brighter future, no matter how the WG structure turns out. Because at the end of the day, it’s the people who make all of this special, not the titles of a group. And for me, I’m here to stay, with or without a Working Group in this community.
This will likely be the last time I bump this topic, but I wanted to acknowledge your response and offer a few final thoughts.
AC
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No more dumb sh__t.
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Sept. 27, 2024, 12:02 p.m.
Content: Been gone for a minute, but now I’m back… What’d I miss?
First off, I’m not here to tell you how to vote on AIP- 466 or say that the Working Group (WG) structure is perfect. Heck, I’m not even going to tell you that it’s efficient. But what I am going to tell you is, don’t get it twisted — the Governance Working Group is built different, and trying to paint any picture other than that is noise.
In fact, I’m gonna ask you to take a quick breath and give me three examples of a more accountable, high-impact grant recipient in the history of ApeCoin DAO outside of ThankAPE and Boring Security; who takes a more community-focused, multifaceted approach.
Three is actually pretty generous. How about one?
Now think about how many failed and/or unaccountable grants have been issued by the DAO, and you’re looking to shut down a premium top- 5 example? Sorry, I’m not following. If you’re looking to shut down the WG structure as a whole, that’s fine, but trying to scapegoat us as some under-delivering group — when we not only hit every OKR but obliterate them and all associated expectations — is no bueno. Don’t cheapen what we have done for the community, and don’t try to erase our personal accomplishments, which will live with all of us well beyond ApeCoin, just to get a bigger ideology over the finish line. This approach also seeks to embarrass us and the voters who believe in what we do, which, to be clear, is the large majority of the voting ApeCoin DAO, as shown by both the election and financial plan voting results.
So keeping all of that in mind, and whether you’re new around here after getting caught up with the latest copy/pasta on Twitter [likely taken way out of context] or just need a reminder about what the GWG does on a day-in, day-out basis, I’m gonna give it to you straight.
:apecoin: ApeCoin DAO innovation:
The first body under the ApeCoin umbrella to start issuing small grants.
The first body under the ApeCoin umbrella to execute grants fully on-chain.
The first body under the ApeCoin umbrella to normalize the regular use of professional service providers to assure that what we are delivering to the community is first-class
The first body under the ApeCoin umbrella–and broader ecosystem–to run an official voting delegation program
The first body under the ApeCoin umbrella–and broader ecosystem–to develop a suite of education and training resources [including proposal writing mentorships] for not only the ApeCoin community, but also those from the community who help administer the training
The first body under the ApeCoin umbrella that has not only once, but consistently, brought together representatives from all primary voting delegations in the same room to discuss pivotal ApeCoin DAO proposals like the Banana Bill and the ApeChain RFP — with all pitch authors present.
The first body under the ApeCoin umbrella to provide rewards for process improvement ideas and to develop a resource bank for community member service providers — whom we have used on an ongoing basis.
The first Working Group under the ApeCoin umbrella to develop an independent legal structure to help further decentralize the DAO and de-risk the APE Foundation as well as ourselves.
:apecoin: ApeCoin DAO Twitter Spaces & Newsfeed:
We also create content. A LOT OF CONTENT. The ApeComms and the ApeCoin main account do a good job getting information out there, but so do we. And we do it on a daily basis, with full-time creation coupled with images to make digesting our messaging easy. We also run offset Twitter Spaces each and every week — one with OpenCampus on DAO education, and the other with Aaron Haber and Ernest Lee, pairing voting delegations and AIP authors with all sorts of interesting reward mechanics (thank you Aaron for leading, and developing, this outstanding initiative!).
:apecoin: Quick Fast Fact:
Guess how many contributors the GWG issues compensation to for their ongoing contributions with us?
Well, including Stewards, program coordinators, the DAO Secretary, proposal writing coaches, and grants committee members — the number is 18 . Can you believe that? Fifteen of those selected directly from the ApeCoin DAO community. This number is actually far more when considering other types of service providers, and an additional 3 with the Facilitator team up until a little less than one month ago.
:apecoin: Transparency & Reporting:
This has been paramount for us.
Have you ever seen anything from any grant recipient who’s received DAO funding provide anything like this on a regular basis? Most companies or other DAOs provide one-pagers. We go the extra mile, recognizing that more often than not, there will be new viewers for these documents who may not yet fully understand what we do, so we create a refined handbook for them.
GWG 2024 Q 1 Transparency Report
GWG 2024 Q 2 Transparency Report
GWG AIP- 317 Budget Impact & Transparency Report
Want to know something else that’s kind of interesting? Outside of producing [some form] of quarterly reporting, we aren’t mandated to deliver upwards of 90 % of what we do.
Our core responsiblilities were written before I arrived here [July 2023 ] has four line items on it, two of which were salaries… But we don’t roll like that. We are here to drive value to you, the COMMUNITY.
Is the setup perfect? No, but no startup is, and that is exactly how we treat this because that’s essentially what we are. That is really what every DAOs is, as we are all new and feeling our way around what works and what doesn’t.
:apecoin: Compensation? Let’s talk about it:
Recently, we parted ways with the Facilitator team. This was based on many logistical reasons, primarily revolving around contract differences. All great guys, all very passionate about the DAO — and all of whom I consider friends. But the GWG needed to start pairing comps down, and we didn’t want to be the ones determining what value that initiative is bringing on a cost vs return basis, and in-turn didn’t want to be the ones asking you for the amount of funding that has become normalized over the years.
As far as the DAO Secretary role goes, we are all very sad to see Bojangle leave. And on a personal level, I have known him as a friend for quite some time and have always worked well together. He’s smart, organized and well rounded. But that role also needed to change, particularly for the reasons listed in his resignation statement posted in here a few days ago. And I’d be remiss not to add that the compensation for this position was set to decrease on October 1 st from $ 7 , 000 USD per month down to $ 5 , 000 USD per month.
The last thing I’m going to add on this topic is a simple reminder that NOBODY working at the DAO on a Working Group level has access to benefits, overtime, sick leave, medical, dental, health insurance, pension, childcare assistance, or employment insurance [which it’s looking like all of us could use in a few weeks] – so let’s chat a little about that next.
THIS IS MY JOB. And one that I take extremely seriously, which far exceeds full-time hours. And I couldn’t tell you how many job offers I’ve either declined because it would affect my ability to perform at ApeCoin, or had been blocked because I was an elected member, no matter how far out of my GWG scope those positions would have been. We are also required to disclose if we are being paid in relation to other AIPs, a logical request, but for the record, for every one or two times you see my name listed as an [unpaid] advisor on an AIP proposal, there are + 20 hours of separate guidance I provide to other AIP authors that you don’t see my name on. Why? Because I care. I care about you, I care about the DAO – I care.
Let’s actually chat about scope, or more specifically all the work that gets done outside of it…
Every Steward partakes in an insane amount of business development and ecosystem growth activities — unpaid, and entirely out of scope. We are official ambassadors of ApeCoin DAO 24 / 7 , whether asleep getting messages on Twitter, Discord or Telegram, or at an IRL event that we likely paid to attend out-of-pocket.
:apecoin: Shutting Down Individual Working Group Initiatiatives & Clawbacks:
This is wild to me.
It’s one thing to shut down Working Groups, another to shut down all Working Groups without giving the ApeCoin DAO community an opportunity to see what’s going on with them on an individual level, and a whole other to start targeting specific initiatives – particulalry fully approved, funded, operating and successful initiatives.
This where AIP- 466 really starts to get away from me, as for some reason it has singled out the GWG on-chain small grants program.
This is a highly organized program with a 13 person voting Committee that is constanly evolving. It’s also the first on-chain grant excuting program in the history of ApeCoin DAO. We’re actually even on a one-week pause to recalibrate a little, digest feedback from our committee, and come back with some new experimental adjustments to continue optimizing output while conserving it’s overall allocation, which has provided direct assistance to countless MBA programs and numerous Apefest events, helping take the burdan off of Yuga Labs, ThankAPE and the BAYC Council.
Future plans for this initiative involve streamlining a more categorized approach with mini-RFP style rounds targeting specific needs of the braoder ApeCoin ecosystem – and everyone who has anything even remotely to do with the program will tell you about it, as we have open group calls on a biweekly basis with everyone.
Also,imagine looking to target DAO education and the impact we’re making with Open Campus from Animoca Brands on the APE_U initiative. That is an absolute embarressment to be looking to shut something like this down with “an orderly wind-down of the operations of any/all activities and entities (e.g. sub-DAOs) associated with the affected Working Groups”.
The Delegate Accelerator, a separate high-impact initiative, is another education-focused program that has literally created 10 new voting groups and further empowered four smaller, already-operating communities.
Furthermore, with a claw back on already approved funds for an already approved initiative, why would anyone want to possibly try and go through the AIP process AGAIN to put it back up, after it has been stopped dead in it’s tracks, often involving professional service providers.
This is the equevelant of a municpal government shutting down a public school which has overwhelming support from it’s surrounding community, laying the teachers off and then suggesting to reapply for the same amount of funding afterward because its valuable infrastructure.
Furthermore, suggesting to claw back funds from one Working Group to back pay Stewards from another is very, very odd, assuming that is the intent of “To pay in full, to affected stewards, any/all amounts that are in arrears.” And if so, are we now suggesting that the work of the GWG Stewards is equal to that of Stewards who have been expected to operate with no budget? Look, the GWG is proud to have helped multiple Working Groups with unsecured loans to assist with their legal formation and other reasonable requests, all of which have been paid back in full. However, not only is the system for new Stewards and Working Groups broken—forcing them to go through elections just to get here, and then telling them they have to do it all over again to actually get anything done—but how could we possibly compare what they are able to do with fully functioning, entirely funded Working Group Stewards executing their duties?
I’m also not sure how a price tag could be put on this considering there is absolutely no actual mandated salary for Stewards, particularly outside of the Governance Working Group. In fact, the only reference to Steward compensation was written back in March 2023 , and as the image below shows, expired in August 2023 , and only even ever applied to the GWG.
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:apecoin: In Closing:
As mentioned from the top, the current WG structure is not ideal, efficient or economically sound for a sustainable ApeCoin DAO future in its current iteration.
But the GWG is quite simply not the same, and the DAO needs public infrastructure — a body that can operate community-driven initiatives with a team in place to manage them, which is exactly what we have evolved into and planned to keep doing.
I’ll also add that there is a large element of pride in my writing, as I’m the one who leads this group, have been here the longest, gone through two elections with a total of eight successful DAO-wide campaigns under my belt and had the progressive vision to evolve the GWG into something much more than the four line items listed back in 2023 . But none of that pride would ever come before what’s best for the DAO or the wishes of the ApeCoin community, nor would it skew my reasoning expressed in this message.
So, all of that being said, once the dust settles and we see how the community votes, if it’s determined that the Working Group structure as a whole is not what the DAO wants, the GWG legacy should live on through its initiatives—whether on a short- or long-term basis, depending on the amount of funding left over—and not be clawed back, cheapening everything we execute successfully, every day of the week.
Some examples might be…
Once on-chain small grant funds are exhausted, offer that infrastructure to ThankAPE.
For the Delegate Accelerator, perhaps @bigbull and @shotgun.tobi put up an independent proposal for the APE Foundation to delegate APE out to groups on behalf of the program, with any existing funding currently used to delegate out, sent back to the ApeCoin DAO treasury permissionlessly, minus a reasonable amount to maintain its operations.
Lastly, I just want to mention @SmartAPE and @capetaintrippy, whom I both know and respect. Although I’m frustrated with this approach, my post is written with an understanding of the broader thinking you share. But as someone who has lived, eaten, and breathed ApeCoin DAO since joining as an elected member back in July 2023 , I’m going to go to bat for my team and what we’ve built.
AC
:apecoin: Homepage of the ApeCoin DAO Governance Working Group Initiatives Hub:
All of our programs accesible from one place.
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ApeCoinGWG x OpenCampus APE_U Education Program:
We are ApeCoin education.
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG x UMA On-Chain Small Grants Program:
The first small grant program under the ApeCoin DAO umbrella
The first grant program to be executed fully on-chain
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG Delegate Accelerator:
The first program to delegate voting power out to the community
14 total voting groups; 10 established; 4 existing
Over 2 , 000 , 000 APE in combined voting power when including APE that these communities either purchased upon joining the program or already held
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG Community Governance Improvement Program:
Empowering the ApeCoin ecosystem by inviting community members to submit ideas that enhance governance processes or address other areas within the GWG’s scope for APE rewards
Resource bank for ApeCoin DAO community members who provide services for a fee
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG Global Community Committee:
Monthly delegate calls
Representatives from all ApeCoin DAO voting delegations
Discussions on current ongoings and presentations from high-impact AIP authors
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG Community Polls:
AIP Author Feedback: AIP Author Feedback
ApeCoin DAO GWG General Feedback: ApeCoin DAO GWG General Feedback Survey
ApeCoin DAO GWG Transparency & Communications Survey: ApeCoin DAO Governance Working Group Transparency & Communications
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG MadeByApes Voting Delegation Onboarding Kit:
Created for the upcoming Yuga Labs created MBA voting delegation
Various onboarding tools to help make better informed decisions
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG Website:
Offered in five languages
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:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG Gitbook:
Various technical documents and applicable information
:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG Community Voting Dashboard:
Various ApeCoin DAO voting metrics
Real-time push notifications on mobile once AIPs go live on Snapshot
:apecoin: ApeCoinGWG [Twitter] News Feed:
Over 5300 followers
Daily ApeCoin & ApeCoin DAO coverage
Weekly Twitter Spaces
Nearly 763 , 000 impressions so far in 2024
5200 Retweets
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- SmartAPE: I am going to assume that this was directed at myself and @capetaintrippy since we’re the authors of AIP-466.
But before I even get into this, I invite you to carefully read how the GwG ended up being added to AIP-466 when in fact the original proposal was specifically targeted at the three new working groups. Start here:
AIP-466: Proposal To Close Non-Essential Working Groups
AIP Drafts
In the spirit of transparency: Note that though the graphic in the proposal shows the facilitators under the GwG hierarchy, unlike the secretary, they are apparently neither under the GwG nor beholden to it. And so, being separate entities, they are unaffected by this proposal to close the GwG. I didn’t know this until early this morning. Imagine my surprise. And I am all but certain that some of you here in the DAO didn’t know this either. OVERSIGHT CHAIR ROLE I mention the above issue with …
AllCityBAYC:
Sorry, I’m not following. If you’re looking to shut down the WG structure as a whole, that’s fine, but trying to scapegoat us as some under-delivering group — when we not only hit every OKR but obliterate them and all associated expectations — is no bueno.
There was neither an inference of the GwG being used as a “scapegoat” nor was it implied anywhere in the proposal (I invite you to check the proposal edits) nor in the comments. As such, this rhetoric is needlessly inflammatory and without merit. Stop that.
As to the OKR and such, that’s largely irrelevant and inconsequential to the reasons surrounding the proposed closing of the WG. Yes - it’s never easy to lose a job, see your dept get defunded, a grant not renewed etc. Especially if it’s a highly paid $7K per month gig. But everything needs to regarded in context and within scope of the activity being suggested.
The issue here is that the DAO is entering a new era and [drastic] changes are needed.
I have to point out that, you took the time to write this entire missive, and not once - not even once - did ANY of you stewards in ANY of the WGs - take a moment to opine on the critical issue surrounding the fact that THE DAO IS ALMOST OUT OF MONEY. To wit: Ape Foundation Transparency Report - 2024 - Q1
But here we are discussing the merits of closing a WG that’s costing the DAO over $1M per year, and that’s more important.
AllCityBAYC:
Now think about how many failed and/or unaccountable grants have been issued by the DAO, and you’re looking to shut down a premium top-5 example?
While nobody is discounting the role that the GwG has played in the DAO, the above isn’t relevant.
AllCityBAYC:
This approach also seeks to embarrass us and the voters who believe in what we do, which, to be clear, is the large majority of the voting ApeCoin DAO, as shown by both the election and financial plan voting results.
Oh really? Right. So how embarrassed would the GwG if the DAO can no longer afford to fund its budget? And where is it written that the DAO - that’s us btw - can’t defund a WG as it sees fit? Where does it say that these working groups were designed to be permanent?
AllCityBAYC:
It’s one thing to shut down Working Groups, another to shut down all Working Groups without giving the ApeCoin DAO community an opportunity to see what’s going on with them on an individual level, and a whole other to start targeting specific initiatives – particulalry fully approved, funded, operating and successful initiatives.
Now you want to bring the topics of transparency and accountability into scope?
To be clear, I have yet to see any comment here on Discourse that seeks to impugn the GwG stewards let alone discard their role and accomplishments in the DAO - and for which each steward has been handsomely paid for their service to the DAO.
AllCityBAYC:
Furthermore, with a claw back on already approved funds for an already approved initiative, why would anyone want to possibly try and go through the AIP process AGAIN to put it back up, after it has been stopped dead in it’s tracks, often involving professional service providers.
There is no claw back in AIP-466. Please outline where you see this in the proposal. In fact, it specifically accounts for ensuring that not only are all stewards paid, but also that there is an orderly shutdown of the GwG.
As per claw backs, even the grants program run by the GwG being defunded is not a claw back. The GWG On-Chain Small Grants Program can just terminate and stop giving out grants. In that case, we can simply state that the grant program terminates at some point - or when it runs out of funds. It’s not as if this was something that the DAO was supposed to be funding in perpetuity. It’s tied to the GwG budget request. Heck, even ThankApe came back for a second grant of a larger 4M when the first grant was depleted. If that request had failed at vote, that would likely have been the end of ThankApe. It happens. We move on. It’s not personal.
AllCityBAYC:
I’m also not sure how a price tag could be put on this considering there is absolutely no actual mandated salary for Stewards, particularly outside of the Governance Working Group. In fact, the only reference to Steward compensation was written back in March 2023, and as the image below shows, expired in August 2023, and only even ever applied to the GWG.
What are you talking about? The steward salaries are right there in your own GwG budget AIP-408: Q2/Q3 2024 Governance Working Group Budget
I want to end this by reiterating - again - that none of this is personal. The DAO created and funded this WG and elected the stewards in them. And so, only the DAO can reverse that decision - as it sees fit.
ps. I noticed that you didn’t mention the Ape-U initiative (which nobody seems to know what’s going on with that) which I believe you are also a part of via the GwG. Did I miss that?
- SmartAPE: AllCityBAYC:
And I’d be remiss not to add that the compensation for this position was set to decrease on October 1st from $7,000 USD per month down to $5,000 USD per month.
I would like an explanation as to why the compensation was set to decrease, how that decision was made - by whom - and when.
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Working Group Team Chart
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Sept. 27, 2024, 11:16 a.m.
Content: Yes… Unclear what’s going on with this.
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What AIPs can a Steward put up independently when they are in a Working Group?
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Sept. 24, 2024, 6:39 p.m.
Content: The section I’ve attached below is particularly interesting to me, given that I have had an entire proposal copied without consent by a member of my Working Group, with only one minor adjustment being made to the AIP body and title, creating a significant amount of confusion to the reader.
Then after presenting these facts here on the forum, a complaint was filed against me suggesting that I violated an NDA and how my comment should be removed.
So as someone who has had their work stolen and presented in a way that would suggest I either wrote it entirely, or contributed to its writing, on a topic that I was adamantly against, I cannot agree with this AIP, as it not only hinders a person’s ability to propose ideas, but also gives credit to those who may not have contributed to the writing.
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- SmartAPE: AllCityBAYC:
The section I’ve attached below is particularly interesting to me, given that I have had an entire proposal copied without consent by a member of my Working Group, with only one minor adjustment being made to the AIP body and title, creating a significant amount of confusion to the reader.
Then after presenting these facts here on the forum, a complaint was filed against me suggesting that I violated an NDA and how my comment should be removed.
So as someone who has had their work stolen and presented in a way that would suggest I either wrote it entirely, or contributed to its writing, on a topic that I was adamantly against, I cannot agree with this AIP, as it not only hinders a person’s ability to propose ideas, but also gives credit to those who may not have contributed to the writing.
This is absolutely ridiculous. All of it.
@bigbull since an NDA doesn’t prevent you from addressing this, please do so at your earliest convenience.
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Resignation from ApeCoin DAO Secretary Position
by AllCityBAYC - Governance Working Group Steward
Posted on: Sept. 24, 2024, 12:52 p.m.
Content: Grateful for your services ser!
You have been a champ!!
:apecoin: :apecoin:
AC
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- BojangleGuy: Appreciate you! Was a pleasure serving by your side.
