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AIP-279 - Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP) - RFC
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: Aug. 23, 2023, 2:47 p.m.
Content: Hey Everyone, after a very long but successful process, we finally have signed the AIP Grant agreement last week and the Apecoin was transferred late last night.
Development and Pre-production have officially begun, but we did lose a few grand of budget during the dip. Going to try to mitigate loss of budget, while avoiding a full liquidation of APE at once and I’ll give a full update in the next day or two.
I do plan to share more about the AIP process so that we can openly discuss and hopefully optimize it for future Grant winners.
Thanks again for all your support. I will be planning some regular Twitter Spaces (probably twice a month) to give updates about the process and where we are. F
or now, the final script and character designs are priority 1 , so we’re getting started on that and I will be speaking with the Thank Ape team to begin the process for gamifying participation for Ape holders as cameos in the books and pilot. That being said, due to the nature of creating content for Hollywood distribution, the teasers will be tempered and we won’t be revealing too much about the content itself to prevent studio/competitor espionage (which is very real in entertainment when competing for distribution).
I’ll be focused on keeping everyone up to date on where in the production process we are with some sneak peeks at appropriate times on these Myth Division update calls!
As always, I’m here if you need me. Talk soon.
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AIP-279 - Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP) - RFC
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: Aug. 10, 2023, 11:33 a.m.
Content: Yes! Everyone keeps crying about marketing. What better way to market than to show everyone how progress works?!
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AIP-279 - Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP) - RFC
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: Aug. 10, 2023, 11:32 a.m.
Content: I’ll update everyone after my call with Fenwick today.
They kindly responded promptly as did a few Special Council members, so thank you Gerry and Capetain Trippy for being so focused on a great solution.
The team at Webslinger has been prompt and friendly too, and I have made their cooperation clear within the thread of that same X-post, so I have not figured out why anything I’ve shared is open for debate other than to express an opinion on my communication style.
We all have ideas about how things should be done. That’s essentially why we’re working toward the development of a functional DAO. By definition it should be a Decentralized Autonomous Organization. It is not… yet.
That said, to get there, I believe AIPs should ideally dictate how every aspect of the DAO runs. Otherwise all executive decisions should be kept behind closed doors and a handful of people should make those decisions just like Web 2 and you can create a new acronym. But at the same time, the whales will have to vote on an AIP that renders them powerless to sway decisions, so that’s another bridge to cross later.
Decentralized Autonomous Organizations have a long way to go before they are any of the three, but I believe transparency is the first step toward achieving autonomy or decentralization.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and criticisms. I’ll continue to share the process with the people who voted on the proposal on the platforms I deem necessary.
Once again, I’m happy to share the “standard but simultaneously, not one-size-fits all” agreement with anyone who requests to see it, for full transparency of the AIP drafting, voting, verification, funding, execution and delivery processes.
For what it’s worth, I’ve seen lots of contracts too. Most of them at the highest levels of the entertainment industry. I deal specifically in Commercial Intellectual Property Rights and I have for over a decade.
I have never received a grant. I’ve been self and community funded for a while. I am still confused that the DAO, by default would offer a grant that templated an Open License as part of the terms of financing a project in nearly any industry, unless it’s maybe a software specific “Work Product.” The rest of the language doesn’t convince me or any of the lawyers I’ve shared it with.
I won’t presume to know any of your experience with Grant or IP licenses, but some people who follow me across various social media platforms (AKA Marketing) value the information I share and there are many more who do not.
But rest assured, I’m comfortable enough to understand the landscape to actively invest and build in it at the same time. I understand that terms are always negotiable.
I feel adamantly that “default templates” for a DAO should be openly discussed and probably voted on, with a panel of experts from within the community consulting to protect the rights of authors as much as we look out for the preservation of the Foundation.
This is not an attack on the stewards of the process.
We are simply new teammates building for the longevity of a digital asset. If I’ve successfully gotten members of the DAO’s attention whether on Twitter or Discord or YouTube, I believe I’ve done my job.
I will continue to accurately detail the journey and my appreciation for our friends in the Special Council, looking out for DAO members’ rights and the teams at Webslinger & Fenwick, who seem to be promptly and happily managing and negotiating the DAO’s agreements.
Wish you the best, stranger.
“Apes Alone Weak. Apes Together Strong.”
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- ssp1111: Was trying to bring this up on Wednesday’s Spaces hosted by ApeComms
AmericanApe:
I’m disappointed that this allegedly “standard” agreement hasn’t been discussed before
And 100% on this
AmericanApe:
to protect the rights of authors as much as we look out for the preservation of the Foundation
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AIP-279 - Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP) - RFC
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: Aug. 9, 2023, 2:31 p.m.
Content: Equally not sure why you decided to post about me rather than address me directly.
Anyway, I’m available for any questions and discussions, as always and will continue to use my public social platforms to address concerns that affect a broader group of people than the ones active in this discourse. I prefer not to be passive-aggressively chastised for that, Ser or Madame.
First - I’m not confident with this platform’s reach and exposure, because despite posting the AIP- 279 draft here initially for the open comment/concern period, those who ultimately voted NO on the AIP did not express a single concern or question here - meaning there’s far less visibility and interaction for debating issues here than on Twitter. There is an echo-chamber of active participants here and, quite frankly, not enough public discussion for DAO progress beyond talk of salaries and AIPs.
Second - it was the DAO’s legal team that attempted to make my “Work Product” available for exploitation to the “General Public” in their brutally broad “Grant License” clause, so it seemed more than fitting to discuss it in a public arena.
Had I carelessly signed it (as some previous AIP authors may have) anyone in the “general public” - their words, not mine - would be able to reproduce, create derivative works, monetize, sell, resell, distribute, and otherwise exploit the “Work Product” AKA the pilot and I would have forfeited all rights to claim authorship or “control distribution.”
If this response comes across as aggressive, forgive me, but it’s because I am quite perturbed that I even have to have this discussion at all, after going through the entire KYC process and fighting hard daily to counteract the politics of inactive, disinterested and silent APE holders for that final win, only to be hit with this “gotcha” clause.
I’ve also learned in the last few hours that the DAO’s legal team isn’t actually presenting each AIP with a “standard” agreement, but I’ll let that AIP Author come forward when they are ready. It seems predatory at best and incompetent legalese at worst. I’m disappointed that this allegedly “standard” agreement hasn’t been discussed before, as it affects all AIP authors who win the community vote, but I’m prepared to discuss it will full transparency so that no one else has to deal with this headache moving forward.
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- SmartAPE: AmericanApe:
Equally not sure why you decided to post about me rather than address me directly.
I did address you directly by pinging you in the post. What else did you mean?
Anyway, I’m available for any questions and discussions, as always and will continue to use my public social platforms to address concerns that affect a broader group of people than the ones active in this discourse. I prefer not to be passive-aggressively chastised for that, Ser or Madame.
That is your right. And I am pretty sure that nobody here is passive-aggressively chastising you. I am unsure how you came to that conclusion.
In fact, I only created this thread when I saw bigbull post the Twitter link in Discord and asking for comments. I took one look and decided that it was something worth discussing in Discourse not only for your benefit, but also for the benefit of the DAO that awarded you the grant.
First - I’m not confident with this platform’s reach and exposure, because despite posting the AIP-279 draft here initially for the open comment/concern period, those who ultimately voted NO on the AIP did not express a single concern or question here - meaning there’s far less visibility and interaction for debating issues here than on Twitter. There is an echo-chamber of active participants here and, quite frankly, not enough public discussion for DAO progress beyond talk of salaries and AIPs.
Those are valid concerns, however I don’t understand how Twitter - which wouldn’t have any insight into the AIP - is considered a better outlet than here where 1) you got the grant from 2) you have an issue with the contract sent to you by the Ape Foundation as per the grant.
Second - it was the DAO’s legal team that attempted to make my “Work Product” available for exploitation to the “General Public” in their brutally broad “Grant License” clause, so it seemed more than fitting to discuss it in a public arena.
Unless and until you actually agree to and sign the agreement, nothing in it can be considered as binding nor exploitative. And I mentioned above, the public can’t opine on the contract because none of us - besides you, the Ape Foundation and the legal team, have seen it.
So, taking it to the general public - that being Twitter - is making one-sided opinions and statements about a contract that the public hasn’t seen. So, how do you expect the public to give you an accurate assessment of something they haven’t seen? They can’t. Which is why the comments in the Twitter feed are based on your comments about the contract.
Further, by doing that, you put the Ape Foundation in an unfair position and cast it in a poor light, without them having the ability to defend nor explain the contract that you have issues with. Yes, it’s OK to have issues with a contract, but how do you expect to have unbiased and reasonable feedback from a public that hasn’t seen it?
Had I carelessly signed it (as some previous AIP authors may have) anyone in the “general public” - their words, not mine - would be able to reproduce, create derivative works, monetize, sell, resell, distribute, and otherwise exploit the “Work Product” AKA the pilot and I would have forfeited all rights to claim authorship or “control distribution.”
Yes - that’s why people read contracts and not just sign them.
If this response comes across as aggressive, forgive me, but it’s because I am quite perturbed that I even have to have this discussion at all, after going through the entire KYC process and fighting hard daily to counteract the politics of inactive, disinterested and silent APE holders for that final win, only to be hit with this “gotcha” clause.
It reads perfectly fine to me - not aggressively at all. But I don’t see it as a gotcha clause. As someone who regularly issues and receives contracts, it’s attorneys who create these contracts. And most of the time the contracts are boilerplate templates which still need to be revised for a particular situation. And you just hit that limitation. So, don’t be upset about receiving a contract like that; just work through it with them. But only an attorney can assist you with that - not the public which hasn’t seen it nor aware of the scope.
I’ve also learned in the last few hours that the DAO’s legal team isn’t actually presenting each AIP with a “standard” agreement, but I’ll let that AIP Author come forward when they are ready. It seems predatory at best and incompetent legalese at worst. I’m disappointed that this allegedly “standard” agreement hasn’t been discussed before, as it affects all AIP authors who win the community vote, but I’m prepared to discuss it will full transparency so that no one else has to deal with this headache moving forward.
The issue is that there’s no “one size fits all” approach to contracts. Especially for a DAO that gives grants to various types of AIPs.
Also, I don’t understand what you mean by “predatory”. The DAO isn’t profiting from the AIP. It’s basically free money that comes with some conditions.
In fact, I have an AIP related to this very same issue whereby we have no insight to these contracts and legal structures.
- ssp1111: Was trying to bring this up on Wednesday’s Spaces hosted by ApeComms
AmericanApe:
I’m disappointed that this allegedly “standard” agreement hasn’t been discussed before
And 100% on this
AmericanApe:
to protect the rights of authors as much as we look out for the preservation of the Foundation
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AIP-279: Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP): Expanding the Ecosystem with Battle-tested IP Veteran and the Batman Producers
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: May 20, 2023, 2:52 p.m.
Content: Thanks! I will make myself available for several Twitter Spaces over the next 2 weeks while we prepare for and during the voting period.
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- toga: Happy to ear that, i make sure attend every space soo cant wait to hear you
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AIP-279: Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP): Expanding the Ecosystem with Battle-tested IP Veteran and the Batman Producers
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: May 20, 2023, 2:51 p.m.
Content: Thanks, we think so too and many members of our current and previous team have already worked on animated shows for the streamers, so it’s well within reach. We would love to show Hollywood that the community is willing to support a show.
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AIP-279: Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP): Expanding the Ecosystem with Battle-tested IP Veteran and the Batman Producers
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: May 20, 2023, 2:50 p.m.
Content: Thanks for the recommendation. I had a feeling we might be able to use it or something comparable for transparency and ease of functionality.
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AIP-279: Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP): Expanding the Ecosystem with Battle-tested IP Veteran and the Batman Producers
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: May 20, 2023, 10:53 a.m.
Content: Hey, sure, MisterHype! Great questions.
There are a few facets to this question, so let me give some context. First, we have built settings for some of our storylines on 13 Sandbox Plots in Euphoria, a few plots from BAYC Official and we have been builting assets and environments in Unreal Engine 5 . 1 in anticipation of the Otherside Developers’ Kits, because we have 6 Otherdeeds, including 1 on the main island, # 131 . So as the story unfolds in the animated series and comic books, all business dealings, heists, small transactions, sales signs, and bounties will be in Apecoin. Much like traditional product integration works, we seamlessly weave Apecoin, it’s marketing materials and organic storytelling points into the presentation. As an anime inspired series in the action-comedy genre, we don’t see that integration as a problem. It would be presented as a Mcguffin in some cases as it will in the comic series.
Without giving too much away-- simultaneously, we’d highlight Apecoin as the primary currency in our metaverse builds, mirroring the experiences of the Metaverse on-screen and in the comics with gamified experiences that utilize the coin, along with the main storylines.
I think it’s simply a matter of talent. For the short we produced I asked a friend from RIOT games to direct and help me produce, so it’s about having an eye for quality, which I feel our track record with Myth Division titles proves thus far. In terms of engaging a broad audience, it’s no secret that BAYC is a global brand stretching from the Pacific to the Atlantic and everywhere in between. That’s why our focus on anime-inspired series makes sense not just for the internal BAYC/NFT community, with countless Anime pfp collections and the rise of Manga and Anime in the West. We only work with the best in the business, or I won’t put my name on it, so I’m confident we have found the right niche and collaborators to fill in any talent gaps, as I serve as the anchor between the OG NFT community and wherever the series may evolve.
I think it will have to be done on the blockchain, so some of the budget would go toward A. paying an existing service to help manage it and prevent botting/cheating B. My devs or perhaps even devs from the ApeDAO, would get paid to build a token-gated one pager to handle the voting structures based on having a token. If we’re going to move in the direction of decentralization, I’d want to give every holder of even a single Apecoin an opportunity to vote. I know this opens to manipulation, but this is the first time I’m even contemplating the pros and cons of excluding votes based on pfp collection held. I would probably open it up to discussion, to be honest since I hadn’t considered that option.
Thanks again for your questions, happy to answer more in a few Spaces this week. I know Grateful Ape has agreed to host me when the AIP is live and I’m sure I’ll do one or more of the weekly ApeComms Spaces, as usual. I pop in from time to time to stay up to date.
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- dar: AmericanApe:
I think it will have to be done on the blockchain, so some of the budget would go toward A. paying an existing service to help manage it and prevent botting/cheating B.
You might want to consider using snapshot for voting. The have the infrastructure built out already and are really low cost.
- MisterHype: Hi @AmericanApe,
Thank you for the detailed response! It’s fascinating to hear about the various facets of your project. Looking forward to seeing how the integration of Apecoin unfolds in the animated series and comic books, as well as its implementation in the metaverse builds. Talent and quality seem to be key factors in your production process, and it’s great to hear about your collaborations with industry professionals. The idea of utilizing the blockchain for voting structures can be fit with snapshot as @dar suggested.
I appreciate your willingness to engage in further discussions and I look forward to participating in upcoming Spaces and ApeComms events.
-Mr. Hype
- koto: I have been with you for a long time and I like what you do. Good luck!
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AIP-279: Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP): Expanding the Ecosystem with Battle-tested IP Veteran and the Batman Producers
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: May 20, 2023, 1:45 a.m.
Content: Appreciate you, ser! Thanks for being a Believer.
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AIP-279: Bored Apes Storm Hollywood (BASH-AIP): Expanding the Ecosystem with Battle-tested IP Veteran and the Batman Producers
by AmericanApe - Accepted AIP Author
Posted on: May 20, 2023, 12:26 a.m.
Content: Thanks AllCity. Yes, that’s what this is gearing up for. Sometimes it will sell to a distributor based on a short proof of concept with some story element and strong package (Talent/Producers/Showrunner), but these days it’s harder and harder unless you come to the table with some of the financing and a finished pilot that is just impossible to turn down. We feel pretty strongly about the “Anime” space and based on our relationships, we know there is strong interest in multiple countries for content in this vein.
But you’re spot on with taking something like this to Netflix. That’s the ongoing behind the scenes intention between step 4 and step 9 , which is where our explicit (on paper) alliance with WME, one of the top agencies in Hollywood comes into play. The supporting comics would ideally be released by our print publishing partner in conjunction with the marketing campaign for any final distribution for the pilot/series. That would give maximum exposure to the holders featured in those lore expanding stories as the debut of the series nears.
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