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[Request for feedback] Building a Farcaster frame as a governance tool to facilitate matchmaking between OP holders and delegates
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: Sept. 17, 2024, 9:19 p.m.
Content: In case you want to learn more.
We participated today in the SuperChain Demo Day.
Catch it here:
x.com
DelegateMatch
@delegate_match
?? Superchain Demo Day ? was amazing!
A big thank you to @Curia_gov, @delegate_match, @OP_Passport, and the Onchain Portfolio teams for showcasing incredible projects! ?
Excited for what’s next in governance, identity, and beyond! Let’s keep building! ?️? #Optimism #Web 3 x.com/Optimism/statu…
Optimism @Optimism
?Superchain Demo Day ?
With @Curia_gov @delegate_match @OP_Passport and Onchain Portfolio teams ?
https://t.co/MsWhRrmabw
4 : 44 PM - 12 Sep 2024
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We make our demo from min 13 : 30
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[Request for feedback] Building a Farcaster frame as a governance tool to facilitate matchmaking between OP holders and delegates
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: July 16, 2024, 12:30 p.m.
Content: Thanks for the suggestion and the link @Jrocki !
I will keep an eye on it.
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[Request for feedback] Building a Farcaster frame as a governance tool to facilitate matchmaking between OP holders and delegates
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: July 15, 2024, 1:11 p.m.
Content: Hi @optimistic_emily,
Thanks for the questions and interest. Here is what we are thinking about both of your questions:
Q 1 . For MVP, the algorithm will compare survey answers from token holders and delegates. We will have it ready in two weeks. After we have launched the MVP on Farcaster, gained adoption, and received feedback, We plan to integrate delegate voting activity and voting patterns. We must find the best way to integrate on-chain voting patterns while mitigating biases.
Q 2 . For the MVP, the algorithm will directly compare survey answers from token holders and delegates. The same survey will be given to both; delegates will use a DeForm survey, while token holders will complete the survey in a Farcaster frame. The result will be the top delegates who answered the same or closest to the token holder. The specifics of the algorithm are still being fleshed out.
If you have any ideas on how to make this project more successful, we would be happy to hear them.
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- Griff: I would love to see more efforts from the collective to push for (Re)delegation. Arbitrum is doing something similar right now in fact. I would love to see OP also push it in their own unique way.
Cotabe:
If you have any ideas on how to make this project more successful, we would be happy to hear them.
I would love to see a little more effort on the outreach side included as part of the effort… I think there could be some cool ways to find farcaster linked addresses that have OP and tag them if they have not delegated. This sort of targeted approach would be
- optimistic_emily: Hey @Cotabe
thanks for your thoughtful response! You could consider measuring the success of the match by running a survey that asks tokenholders how satisfied they are with the voting decisions made by their delegates (maybe after their delegate has been voting for 1 season…). You can compare the satisfaction rating of token holders who delegated using the matching service vs. those who selected their delegate in a different way
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[Request for feedback] Building a Farcaster frame as a governance tool to facilitate matchmaking between OP holders and delegates
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: July 8, 2024, 6:53 p.m.
Content: GM Optimists!
TL;DR: We are building a Farcaster frame to help OP token holders seamlessly find an ideal match to delegate their OP.
We are a small team supported by Raid Guild to build this MVP for Optimism to help increase the delegated supply of OP to active delegates and foster deeper alignment between delegates and delegators. We also want to bring Raid Guild closer to the Optimism ecosystem.
We are taking inspiration from Voting Advice Applications (VAAs) to create a Delegate Match Application (DMA) for Optimism. Voting Advice Applications are online tools designed to help voters identify which political parties or candidates most closely align with their personal views and preferences. Users answer a series of questions about key issues, and the VAA matches their responses with the positions of various political parties or candidates. The outcome is usually a percentage score or a list showing which parties or candidates the user aligns with most closely, thus aiding in making informed voting decisions.
VAAs have been widely used across Europe. By providing voters with tools to easily compare their own policy preferences to those of various parties, VAAs have significantly improved electoral participation and the quality of democratic governance.
We aim to adapt this model and build this application for the Optimism community in the open to make a more user-centric MVP. For that, we invite you to participate in the process. Please share your thoughts about these questions or any other insights in the comments and fill out the poll.
For Delegates:
What are the key aspects or values you believe are crucial for OP holders to understand about your governance philosophy?
How do you prefer to communicate your decisions and actions to the community?
For OP Holders:
What factors do you consider most important when choosing a delegate?
What information do you find most valuable in making your delegation decisions?
How many questions would be ideal to find a good fit, but not discourage you from finishing?
For anyone:
What other contentious or non-contentious topics could better align OP holders with a specific delegate?
Topics for Matchmaking:
We are considering various topics to facilitate effective matchmaking between OP holders and delegates. Which of these do you find relevant? select all that apply.
Commitment vs. Curriculum: Should the focus in choosing council and board members be on their commitment to Optimism, experience in Optimism, or professional background, even if they are new to the collective?
Grants and RPGF Ideology: Would you prefer funding a few well-established projects with high potential for impact or supporting several emerging projects showing initial impact?
Decentralization Pace: Should we accelerate towards a fully decentralized collective, or advocate for a steady transition from the foundation to the collective?
Funding OSS vs VC Ventures: How should we balance funding between VC-backed ventures and open-source initiatives?
Delegate Engagement: How important is it for a delegate to have active communication channels detailing their voting decisions and rationale?
Demographic Matching: Do you see value in delegators being able to filter matches based on demographic factors like gender, region, or language?
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This post will serve as a living document, updated based on feedback and the project’s evolution.
We will also conduct some interviews with delegates, delegators, govnerds, members of the OP foundation, OP labs, and other stakeholders. Please feel free to DM @cotabe here or on TG (same handle everywhere) if you want to participate in a short interview or support this effort.
Please share your thoughts about the matchmaking topics, other topics that we might have missed. Thank you for your engagement and support.
Stay Optimistic!
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Can incentives be a good mechanism to improve Optimism governance?
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: June 25, 2024, 11:32 p.m.
Content: GM Optimists! :star 2 : I don’t usually write forum posts, so please bear with me… Its my first day meme 752 × 572 275 KB I’m also not sure if this is the right category. So feel free to correct me… TL;DR: This post is to collect feedback from the community on how incentives can be used to improve Optimism Governance. It has open ended questions and some fun polls to collect aggregated signal for a community-led incentive program that will be run by Unitap. Improving governance accessibility has been one of the core intents of Optimism 1 . This intent became a Schelling point to align the community and work to improve Governance accessibility. However, human alignment is a complicated nut to crack and the best ways to improve Governance accessibility can be very different for all of us. This post was inspired by @LauNaMu, as I heard her talking not long ago about how Governance incentives can go wrong. My intention is to collect insights, aggregated signal and feedback regarding how to improve governance accessibility overall and specifically what kind of incentives could help this intent and what kind of incentives could turn into perverse incentives that create unintended negative consequences. governance and incentives meme 541 × 715 382 KB If you were dying to tell the Optimism community how you think we can improve Optimism Governance this is the place to gather all opinions and feedback. Here are some open questions and polls, but feel free to add anything you think is relevant. Open ended questions. What can be improved in Optimism Governance? What kind of interventions would help to improve Optimism Governance? (Solution brainstorming) What prevents OP holders from engaging in governance or delegating their tokens? How can delegators easily monitor their delegates’ participation? Are incentives a good mechanism? If so, how should we market incentive programs to reach its target audience? (for example: OP holders that haven’t delegated or that delegated to inactive or ghost delegates) Are the current KPIs (Delegated supply of OP, Average OP voted per governance proposal) sufficient? Should we consider other metrics like delegate diversity or the concentration of voting power in a handful of delegates? What kind of incentive programs could create negative consequences? (perverse incentives) Poll Time! Please help us get aggregated signal. What incentives would be more effective in improving Optimism Governance? We should not use incentives to improve Optimism Governance OP tokens POAPs NFTs Attestations I have other ideas (Please add your comments below) 4 voters Choose up to 5 options. Votes are public. Vote now!Results 2 . Should OP be used for incentives? Yes No Only if the incentives can accomplish measurable impact and can’t be farmed Other (Please add your comments below) 5 voters Votes are public. Results 3 . Small rewards for everyone vs raffles with large prizes? Everyone that does an action (e.g. delegating OP) gets a small reward. Everyone that does an action (e.g. delegating OP) gets the chance to participate in a raffle for larger prizes. Let users choose their incentive. 4 voters Votes are public. Results 4 . What would be the best KPI to measure the efficiency of a community-led incentive program pilot to improve Optimism governance? Delegated supply of OP Delegated supply of OP to active delegates Average OP voted per governance proposal OP delegated to active delegates with small delegations Other (Please add your comments below) 4 voters Votes are public. Results Thanks for your feedback, answers and governance insights. We will try to use your comments to design an effective community led incentive program. We will also be conducting some interviews with Govnerds, members of the OP foundation, OP labs and other stakeholders. Please feel free to DM @cotabe on TG if you want to be part of a short interview and support this effort. Stay Optimistic! :speech_balloon::sparkles:
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Can incentives be a good mechanism to improve Optimism governance?
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: June 25, 2024, 7:32 p.m.
Content: GM Optimists! :star 2 :
I don’t usually write forum posts, so please bear with me…
Its my first day meme 752 × 572 275 KB
I’m also not sure if this is the right category. So feel free to correct me…
TL;DR: This post is to collect feedback from the community on how incentives can be used to improve Optimism Governance. It has open ended questions and some fun polls to collect aggregated signal for a community-led incentive program that will be run by Unitap.
Improving governance accessibility has been one of the core intents of Optimism. This intent became a Schelling point to align the community and work to improve Governance accessibility. However, human alignment is a complicated nut to crack and the best ways to improve Governance accessibility can be very different for all of us.
This post was inspired by @LauNaMu, as I heard her talking not long ago about how Governance incentives can go wrong. My intention is to collect insights, aggregated signal and feedback regarding how to improve governance accessibility overall and specifically what kind of incentives could help this intent and what kind of incentives could turn into perverse incentives that create unintended negative consequences.
governance and incentives meme 541 × 715 382 KB
If you were dying to tell the Optimism community how you think we can improve Optimism Governance this is the place to gather all opinions and feedback. Here are some open questions and polls, but feel free to add anything you think is relevant.
Open ended questions.
What can be improved in Optimism Governance?
What kind of interventions would help to improve Optimism Governance? (Solution brainstorming)
What prevents OP holders from engaging in governance or delegating their tokens?
How can delegators easily monitor their delegates’ participation?
Are incentives a good mechanism? If so, how should we market incentive programs to reach its target audience? (for example: OP holders that haven’t delegated or that delegated to inactive or ghost delegates)
Are the current KPIs (Delegated supply of OP, Average OP voted per governance proposal) sufficient? Should we consider other metrics like delegate diversity or the concentration of voting power in a handful of delegates?
What kind of incentive programs could create negative consequences? (perverse incentives)
Poll Time!
Please help us get aggregated signal.
What incentives would be more effective in improving Optimism Governance?
We should not use incentives to improve Optimism Governance
OP tokens
POAPs
NFTs
Attestations
I have other ideas (Please add your comments below)
15
voters
Choose up to 5 options.
Votes are public.
Vote now!
Results
2 . Should OP be used for incentives?
Yes
No
Only if the incentives can accomplish measurable impact and can’t be farmed
Other (Please add your comments below)
16
voters
Votes are public.
Results
3 . Small rewards for everyone vs raffles with large prizes?
Everyone that does an action (e.g. delegating OP) gets a small reward.
Everyone that does an action (e.g. delegating OP) gets the chance to participate in a raffle for larger prizes.
Let users choose their incentive.
15
voters
Votes are public.
Results
4 . What would be the best KPI to measure the efficiency of a community-led incentive program pilot to improve Optimism governance?
Delegated supply of OP
Delegated supply of OP to active delegates
Average OP voted per governance proposal
OP delegated to active delegates with small delegations
Other (Please add your comments below)
15
voters
Votes are public.
Results
Thanks for your feedback, answers and governance insights. We will try to use your comments to design an effective community led incentive program.
We will also be conducting some interviews with Govnerds, members of the OP foundation, OP labs and other stakeholders. Please feel free to DM @cotabe on TG if you want to be part of a short interview and support this effort.
Stay Optimistic! :speech_balloon::sparkles:
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- alexsotodigital: Cotabe:
What can be improved in Optimism Governance?
Thank you @Cotabe for bringing up this topic and sparking the conversation about incentives + governance.
My perspective is that the essence of good governance is in doing ‘care work’ (towards the organization and the colleagues) since it involves spending time strengthening and updating agreements, such as creating manuals, refining roles or improving workflow (which is strategic in the long term), even when that takes away time for operations (which are usually urgent in the short term). A little more about this in this article I wrote.
For this reason, it is important to highlight that incentives can have a negative impact if it comes from a mentality focused on achieving personal benefit and profit in the short term
I think incentives (in governance) should be more symbolic than economic.
Just imagine someone who was giving hugs waiting for money. It wouldn’t feel the same would it?
Therefore, it seems to me that having attestations or POAPs, linked to reputation building, is a safer path than involving OP tokens for this purpose.
I also believe (going to the open ended questions) that talking about how to ‘improved in Optimism Governance’ must consider both the technical and the human.
I mean, the ‘decentralization of decision-making power’ is relevant (and can be measured in how OP Tokens are delegated and used), but it is also important to analyze the collective’s ability to have continuous learning.
This from:
doing retrospectives,
harvesting learnings,
translating them into proposals for improvements,
creating manuals or operation guides
training new members.
Something that, I’m surprised, is constantly absent from this conversation.
To have more dynamic governance, we need to cultivate a culture where taking time to care is something that is practiced, recognized and valued. But let’s not let money get in the way, or we will doubt the best intentions.
- liucdao: Cotabe:
hat would be the best KPI to measure the efficiency of a community-led incentive program pilot to improve Optimism governance?
My personal view is : Good governance is no governance.
No governance means that all power is in the hands of the electorate, with no need for third-party management.
To give a simple example, let’s consider the cake cutting problem:
There are many classic algorithms for dealing with this issue, whether it’s envy-free division or fair division, the decision-making power is in the hands of everyone.
This is the explanation of the concept of “no governance.”
If we must say there is governance, then this governance is merely about maintaining an order – that is, let everyone to accurately express their own preferences.
I believe that rational egoism and the principle of equality can almost entirely avoid the majority of conflicts.
“In good governance, there is no governance.” In other words, by using smart contracts, we can abandon the “majority rule” and fully embrace the “unanimous consent principle.”
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Can incentives be a good mechanism to improve Optimism governance?
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: June 25, 2024, 7:32 p.m.
Content: GM Optimists! :star 2 :
I don’t usually write forum posts, so please bear with me…
Its my first day meme 752 × 572 275 KB
I’m also not sure if this is the right category. So feel free to correct me…
TL;DR: This post is to collect feedback from the community on how incentives can be used to improve Optimism Governance. It has open ended questions and some fun polls to collect aggregated signal for a community-led incentive program that will be run by Unitap.
Improving governance accessibility has been one of the core intents of Optimism 2 . This intent became a Schelling point to align the community and work to improve Governance accessibility. However, human alignment is a complicated nut to crack and the best ways to improve Governance accessibility can be very different for all of us.
This post was inspired by @LauNaMu, as I heard her talking not long ago about how Governance incentives can go wrong. My intention is to collect insights, aggregated signal and feedback regarding how to improve governance accessibility overall and specifically what kind of incentives could help this intent and what kind of incentives could turn into perverse incentives that create unintended negative consequences.
governance and incentives meme 541 × 715 382 KB
If you were dying to tell the Optimism community how you think we can improve Optimism Governance this is the place to gather all opinions and feedback. Here are some open questions and polls, but feel free to add anything you think is relevant.
Open ended questions.
What can be improved in Optimism Governance?
What kind of interventions would help to improve Optimism Governance? (Solution brainstorming)
What prevents OP holders from engaging in governance or delegating their tokens?
How can delegators easily monitor their delegates’ participation?
Are incentives a good mechanism? If so, how should we market incentive programs to reach its target audience? (for example: OP holders that haven’t delegated or that delegated to inactive or ghost delegates)
Are the current KPIs (Delegated supply of OP, Average OP voted per governance proposal) sufficient? Should we consider other metrics like delegate diversity or the concentration of voting power in a handful of delegates?
What kind of incentive programs could create negative consequences? (perverse incentives)
Poll Time!
Please help us get aggregated signal.
What incentives would be more effective in improving Optimism Governance?
We should not use incentives to improve Optimism Governance
OP tokens
POAPs
NFTs
Attestations
I have other ideas (Please add your comments below)
15
voters
Choose up to 5 options.
Votes are public.
Vote now!
Results
2 . Should OP be used for incentives?
Yes
No
Only if the incentives can accomplish measurable impact and can’t be farmed
Other (Please add your comments below)
16
voters
Votes are public.
Results
3 . Small rewards for everyone vs raffles with large prizes?
Everyone that does an action (e.g. delegating OP) gets a small reward.
Everyone that does an action (e.g. delegating OP) gets the chance to participate in a raffle for larger prizes.
Let users choose their incentive.
15
voters
Votes are public.
Results
4 . What would be the best KPI to measure the efficiency of a community-led incentive program pilot to improve Optimism governance?
Delegated supply of OP
Delegated supply of OP to active delegates
Average OP voted per governance proposal
OP delegated to active delegates with small delegations
Other (Please add your comments below)
15
voters
Votes are public.
Results
Thanks for your feedback, answers and governance insights. We will try to use your comments to design an effective community led incentive program.
We will also be conducting some interviews with Govnerds, members of the OP foundation, OP labs and other stakeholders. Please feel free to DM @cotabe on TG if you want to be part of a short interview and support this effort.
Stay Optimistic! :speech_balloon::sparkles:
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Replies: 2
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- alexsotodigital: Cotabe:
What can be improved in Optimism Governance?
Thank you @Cotabe for bringing up this topic and sparking the conversation about incentives + governance.
My perspective is that the essence of good governance is in doing ‘care work’ (towards the organization and the colleagues) since it involves spending time strengthening and updating agreements, such as creating manuals, refining roles or improving workflow (which is strategic in the long term), even when that takes away time for operations (which are usually urgent in the short term). A little more about this in this article I wrote.
For this reason, it is important to highlight that incentives can have a negative impact if it comes from a mentality focused on achieving personal benefit and profit in the short term
I think incentives (in governance) should be more symbolic than economic.
Just imagine someone who was giving hugs waiting for money. It wouldn’t feel the same would it?
Therefore, it seems to me that having attestations or POAPs, linked to reputation building, is a safer path than involving OP tokens for this purpose.
I also believe (going to the open ended questions) that talking about how to ‘improved in Optimism Governance’ must consider both the technical and the human.
I mean, the ‘decentralization of decision-making power’ is relevant (and can be measured in how OP Tokens are delegated and used), but it is also important to analyze the collective’s ability to have continuous learning.
This from:
doing retrospectives,
harvesting learnings,
translating them into proposals for improvements,
creating manuals or operation guides
training new members.
Something that, I’m surprised, is constantly absent from this conversation.
To have more dynamic governance, we need to cultivate a culture where taking time to care is something that is practiced, recognized and valued. But let’s not let money get in the way, or we will doubt the best intentions.
- liucdao: Cotabe:
hat would be the best KPI to measure the efficiency of a community-led incentive program pilot to improve Optimism governance?
My personal view is : Good governance is no governance.
No governance means that all power is in the hands of the electorate, with no need for third-party management.
To give a simple example, let’s consider the cake cutting problem:
There are many classic algorithms for dealing with this issue, whether it’s envy-free division or fair division, the decision-making power is in the hands of everyone.
This is the explanation of the concept of “no governance.”
If we must say there is governance, then this governance is merely about maintaining an order – that is, let everyone to accurately express their own preferences.
I believe that rational egoism and the principle of equality can almost entirely avoid the majority of conflicts.
“In good governance, there is no governance.” In other words, by using smart contracts, we can abandon the “majority rule” and fully embrace the “unanimous consent principle.”
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[READY TO VOTE] Open Source OP Stack Developer Tooling
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: Feb. 7, 2024, 8:51 p.m.
Content: Just flagging that the title of this Mission Request should be changed from [Draft] to [Ready to vote] Congratulations! IMO this is a great mission request.
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[DRAFT] Research different approaches to scale badgeholders capacity to allocate RetroPGF
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: Feb. 7, 2024, 8:30 p.m.
Content: Thank you @ 404 DAO for sponsoring the Mission Request Proposal and thank you to everyone who commented or engaged with it. This has been a process full of learning. I didn’t know the foundation hired a Citizenship PM, that’s very exciting. I’m a huge fan of the two-houses approach that Optimism is taking for Governance. It makes sense that things are more rocky at the beginning. I’m looking forward to seeing new iterations that make governance smoother, more plural and capture-resistant.
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[READY TO VOTE] Novel treasury bootstrapping solutions
by Cotabe - No Role
Posted on: Feb. 7, 2024, 8:15 p.m.
Content: I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote. I suggest editing the title. I agree that this is a really good opportunity for future builders and bringing more innovators into the space.
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