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Pairwise: RF6’s Voting Tool & Liquid Democracy Experiment
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: Oct. 27, 2024, 10:56 p.m.
Content: We are live! https://app.pairwise.vote
In Retro Funding 6 , Pairwise has 2 use cases.
The first use case is as official tooling, supporting Badgeholders and Guest Voters in building their ballot with a simple and fun UX.
The second use case is as an experiment to engage the broader community in RetroFunding 6 and try out liquid democracy as a potential Retro Funding voting methodology.
Quick Intro to Pairwise
Pairwise is an open-source voting dapp that simplifies the Retro Funding voting experience, letting voters assign a star rating to each project and select the better of 2 options. This allows us to aggregate the voter’s choices into an ordered list. Pairwise is designed to be user-friendly and intuitive, converting simple subjective inputs into objective, measurable outputs, minimizing the cognitive burden of voting.
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Supporting the Official Voting Experience
If you are a Badgeholder or Guest Voter, give Pairwise a try! We put in a lot of work to make your decision making process easier.
Pairwise for RF 6 will be very similar to RF 5 . Visit the RF 5 post for all the details, but here is the TL;DR:
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Head to Pairwise
Vote on the Budget
Vote on your assigned Category
Adjust the final distribution and Update your ballot and return to the main UI to finalize your vote.
Comeback to Pairwise rank more categories and experiment with liquid democracy, this last step will not affect official results, it’s for experimental purposes.
The Big Experiment: Bringing Liquid Democracy to Retro Funding 6
It’s happening! After our fun experiment in Retro Funding 4 , we wanted to offer the broader community a chance to engage in Retro Funding again! Our goal is to make RF 6 more impactful by enabling everyone to participate. We hope it will promote projects, educate the community, and foster collaboration and network effects within the Superchain, while also testing experimental features to advance the voting process of Retro Public Goods Funding.
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As part of the Superchain community you will be able to delegate or vote on your favorite projects on Retro Funding 6 and be part of the experimentation with Liquid Democracy.
Any community member that wants to engage with Retro Funding 6 will be able to assign a delegate for the budget and each of the three categories of the round. Delegates can also delegate their voting power and the voting power of those that have delegated to them!
Anyone will be able to delegate their decision on each category to any Farcaster user, even if the user has not connected to Pairwise yet. It’s incredibly simple and makes it possible for your voice to be heard in our RF 6 experiment in under 5 minutes.
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Voting Power Distribution
Pairwise is allowing ANYONE to engage with RF 6 . While everyone can play, not everyone has voting power in our experiment. We have three different stakeholder groups, and each one will have their own separate results which will be very interesting to compare.
NOTE: Only Badgeholders and Guest Voters that import their ballot to the official voting application will count towards distributing funds, the Liquid Democracy Pairwise RF 6 experiment does not allocate any OP.
HOLDERS of OP and/or World ID
Link: Optimistic Etherscan Token Balances
WHALE: 10 M OP, 50 holders, Votes: 100
Diamond: 1 M OP, 190 holders, Votes: 50
Platinum: 100 k OP, 1000 ish holders, Votes: 25
Gold: 10 k OP, Countless Holders, Votes: 15
Silver: 1 k OP, Countless Holders, Votes: 5
Bronze: 500 OP, Countless Holders, Votes: 3
Snapshot to taken Oct 18 th.
Note: To address potential sybil issues, connecting your World ID will move your rank one category higher. If you hold less than 500 OP, you’ll be a Bronze holder. If you’re already Bronze, you’ll move up to Silver, and so on.
DELEGATES
Link: Optimism Tally Delegates
Diamond: 1 M Delegated OP, 23 delegates, Votes: 8
Platinum: 100 k Delegated OP, 40 delegates, Votes: 5
Gold: 15 k Delegated OP, 64 delegates, Votes: 3
Silver: 5 k Delegated OP, 175 delegates, Votes: 2
Bronze: 2 . 5 k Delegated OP, 185 delegates, Votes: 1
Snapshot taken Oct 22 .
BADGEHOLDERS & GUEST VOTERS
1 address 1 vote
Guest Voters might have their voting power reduced to . 25 or . 5 depending on a Badgeholder vote after the round is over.
Pseudonymity
We are excited to experiment with liquid democracy using the same tech stack we used in RF 4 . We have big dreams for the future of zk-powered liquid democracy, but we had to cut completely pseudonymous Liquid Democracy from scope to hit the RF 6 deadline. We are leaving the Bandada infrastructure in place so we can integrate it in future rounds. In this round we effectively have a centralized voting infrastructure but votes and delegations will not be publicly known or displayed, nor do we have any intention of looking into it.
You can however choose to make your vote public, with a cast on Farcaster.
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Thank you for playing!
We are hopeful this will make a small step towards the original dream of DAOs, where a swarm of community members can easily and meaningfully engage in decision making. The current state of DAO governance has digressed into relying on 5 - 30 powerful representatives to decide everything for most DAOs. We must continue to iterate and experiment.
Liquid Democracy is clearly a potential path to fix this. Instead of having one delegate for everything, you choose a delegate based on the topic, and if they don’t feel informed on a decision, they can delegate all the voting power they have to someone else.
Help us move closer to making this potentially game changing DAO technology a reality by participating in Pairwise’s Retro Funding 6 experiment! The link will be posted soon. We welcome your feedback to make your experience better as we continue evolving.
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Pairwise: RF6’s Voting Tool & Liquid Democracy Experiment
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: Oct. 27, 2024, 10:56 p.m.
Content: We are live! https://app.pairwise.vote 1
In Retro Funding 6 , Pairwise has 2 use cases.
The first use case is as official tooling, supporting Badgeholders and Guest Voters in building their ballot with a simple and fun UX.
The second use case is as an experiment to engage the broader community in RetroFunding 6 and try out liquid democracy as a potential Retro Funding voting methodology.
Quick Intro to Pairwise
Pairwise is an open-source voting dapp that simplifies the Retro Funding voting experience, letting voters assign a star rating to each project and select the better of 2 options. This allows us to aggregate the voter’s choices into an ordered list. Pairwise is designed to be user-friendly and intuitive, converting simple subjective inputs into objective, measurable outputs, minimizing the cognitive burden of voting.
1600 × 980 254 KB
Supporting the Official Voting Experience
If you are a Badgeholder or Guest Voter, give Pairwise a try! We put in a lot of work to make your decision making process easier.
Pairwise for RF 6 will be very similar to RF 5 . Visit the RF 5 post for all the details 4 , but here is the TL;DR:
773 × 735 50 . 1 KB
Head to Pairwise 2
Vote on the Budget
Vote on your assigned Category
Adjust the final distribution and Update your ballot and return to the main UI to finalize your vote.
Comeback to Pairwise 2 rank more categories and experiment with liquid democracy, this last step will not affect official results, it’s for experimental purposes.
The Big Experiment: Bringing Liquid Democracy to Retro Funding 6
It’s happening! After our fun experiment 1 in Retro Funding 4 , we wanted to offer the broader community a chance to engage in Retro Funding again! Our goal is to make RF 6 more impactful by enabling everyone to participate. We hope it will promote projects, educate the community, and foster collaboration and network effects within the Superchain, while also testing experimental features to advance the voting process of Retro Public Goods Funding.
972 × 886 610 KB
As part of the Superchain community you will be able to delegate or vote on your favorite projects on Retro Funding 6 and be part of the experimentation with Liquid Democracy.
Any community member that wants to engage with Retro Funding 6 will be able to assign a delegate for the budget and each of the three categories of the round. Delegates can also delegate their voting power and the voting power of those that have delegated to them!
Anyone will be able to delegate their decision on each category to any Farcaster user, even if the user has not connected to Pairwise yet. It’s incredibly simple and makes it possible for your voice to be heard in our RF 6 experiment in under 5 minutes.
| 480 x 593 . 54716981132071285 × 1600 274 KB
Voting Power Distribution
Pairwise is allowing ANYONE to engage with RF 6 . While everyone can play, not everyone has voting power in our experiment. We have three different stakeholder groups, and each one will have their own separate results which will be very interesting to compare.
NOTE: Only Badgeholders and Guest Voters that import their ballot to the official voting application will count towards distributing funds, the Liquid Democracy Pairwise RF 6 experiment does not allocate any OP.
HOLDERS of OP and/or World ID
Link: Optimistic Etherscan Token Balances
WHALE: 10 M OP, 50 holders, Votes: 100
Diamond: 1 M OP, 190 holders, Votes: 50
Platinum: 100 k OP, 1000 ish holders, Votes: 25
Gold: 10 k OP, Countless Holders, Votes: 15
Silver: 1 k OP, Countless Holders, Votes: 5
Bronze: 500 OP, Countless Holders, Votes: 3
Snapshot to taken Oct 18 th.
Note: To address potential sybil issues, connecting your World ID will move your rank one category higher. If you hold less than 500 OP, you’ll be a Bronze holder. If you’re already Bronze, you’ll move up to Silver, and so on.
DELEGATES
Link: Optimism Tally Delegates 3
Diamond: 1 M Delegated OP, 23 delegates, Votes: 8
Platinum: 100 k Delegated OP, 40 delegates, Votes: 5
Gold: 15 k Delegated OP, 64 delegates, Votes: 3
Silver: 5 k Delegated OP, 175 delegates, Votes: 2
Bronze: 2 . 5 k Delegated OP, 185 delegates, Votes: 1
Snapshot taken Oct 22 .
BADGEHOLDERS & GUEST VOTERS
1 address 1 vote
Guest Voters might have their voting power reduced to . 25 or . 5 depending on a Badgeholder vote after the round is over.
Pseudonymity
We are excited to experiment with liquid democracy using the same tech stack we used in RF 4 . We have big dreams for the future of zk-powered liquid democracy, but we had to cut completely pseudonymous Liquid Democracy from scope to hit the RF 6 deadline. We are leaving the Bandada infrastructure in place so we can integrate it in future rounds. In this round we effectively have a centralized voting infrastructure but votes and delegations will not be publicly known or displayed, nor do we have any intention of looking into it.
You can however choose to make your vote public, with a cast on Farcaster.
1216 × 1192 101 KB
Thank you for playing!
We are hopeful this will make a small step towards the original dream of DAOs, where a swarm of community members can easily and meaningfully engage in decision making. The current state of DAO governance has digressed into relying on 5 - 30 powerful representatives to decide everything for most DAOs. We must continue to iterate and experiment.
Liquid Democracy is clearly a potential path to fix this. Instead of having one delegate for everything, you choose a delegate based on the topic, and if they don’t feel informed on a decision, they can delegate all the voting power they have to someone else.
Help us move closer to making this potentially game changing DAO technology a reality by participating in Pairwise’s Retro Funding 6 experiment! The link will be posted soon. We welcome your feedback to make your experience better as we continue evolving.
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joanbp,
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Security Council Nomination: Remco Bloemen from Worldcoin Foundation
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: Aug. 19, 2024, 4:07 p.m.
Content: I’m an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and I think it makes a lot of sense for Worldcoin to have a representative on the security council
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Security Council Nomination: Remco Bloemen from Worldcoin Foundation
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: Aug. 19, 2024, 4:07 p.m.
Content: I’m an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I think it makes a lot of sense for Worldcoin to have a representative on the security council
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Security Council Nomination: ml_sudo
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: Aug. 13, 2024, 8:19 a.m.
Content: I’m an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I’m excited to see ML on the security council
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[Request for feedback] Building a Farcaster frame as a governance tool to facilitate matchmaking between OP holders and delegates
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: July 15, 2024, 2:37 p.m.
Content: I would love to see more efforts from the collective to push for (Re)delegation. Arbitrum is doing something similar right now in fact. I would love to see OP also push it in their own unique way.
Cotabe:
If you have any ideas on how to make this project more successful, we would be happy to hear them.
I would love to see a little more effort on the outreach side included as part of the effort… I think there could be some cool ways to find farcaster linked addresses that have OP and tag them if they have not delegated. This sort of targeted approach would be
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- sayo: Hi Optimistic Family, I would like to introduce myself as the lead dev on this effort!
Happy to chime in on technical and feasibility questions!
Our current effort is to get an MVP version out there to prove utility of the concept!
As mentioned by @Cotabe earlier for MVP we want to go simple with just matching responses from 2 types of stakeholders so far.
survey responses by delegates via deform
and responses via frame by token holders.
Griff:
I think there could be some cool ways to find farcaster linked addresses that have OP
thanks @Griff this is a very nice idea, based on our dev work so far, this does seem viable. We will think more about how to execute this outreach effort!
Always open to more suggestions and feedback from the community!
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Retro Funding 4: Voting Rationale Thread
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: July 12, 2024, 3:32 a.m.
Content:
jessepollak:
From all of our metric work on Base, it’s clear that any non-filtered activity metrics are very easy to be gamed / not indicative of actual impact. This pushed me to index on trusted users. While the trusted users metric is not perfect, I believe it’s a good enough proxy for impact that we should use it and iterate on it.
This was my thought as well. I chose 8 metrics and focused on metrics with trusted users and gave each of the metrics similar weight.
While I have nothing against bots doing legit arbitrage, or people using anon accounts, I am confident that many of the projects manufacture onchain activity for their own benefit. I know this because I had been advised to this for the $GIV token to increase the volumes on dex’s.
Given low gas fees, pumping onchain activity is cheap marketing for many projects, it would help get investment, legitimize the project, get grants, etc. And truth be told, its not always the teams that do this themselves… it could be their investors or partners.
Sure they pay gas and have real onchain txs… but favoring metrics of trusted users mitigates this.
I also, at the last minute removed user onboarding as a metric, since it excludes AA wallet users… This is the best onboarding tech out there, so to see projects using it excluded from the metric made the metric void IMO.
And I gave 3 x to open source contributions.
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Pairwise is LIVE! We invite you to signal in Retro Funding 4
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: June 29, 2024, 7:09 p.m.
Content: 1200 × 676 306 KB Try it at https://pairwise.vote 5 ! We welcome you to be part of of our ongoing experiment to improve digital democracy. Discover new projects that match your interests, choose who made more impact and vote pseudonymously! Play to Win - 4000 OP up for grabs! 1200 × 675 175 KB For every category you rank, you will increase your chances of winning part of our 4000 OP prize pool. There will be 40 lucky winners and the more you rank the more likely you will be one of them. Deep dive into the rules at the end of this post 3 . Why are we doing this? Pairwise’s goal is to make voting in Retro Funding rounds simple and fun. This massively improved version of Pairwise is a new experiment where we give OP Delegates, OP Token holders, RF 4 Recipients as well as RF 4 Badgeholders an opportunity to signal their preferences in Retro Funding 4 (RF 4 ). Each of these four stakeholder groups will have their own voting results; we are excited to see how they compare! We hope this effort will not only explore a new voting methodology for ranking Retro Funding projects, but also significantly promote the work done by all the projects accepted into RF 4 . We want to showcase the value these projects provided to the Superchain to an audience beyond the ~ 130 badgeholders. This way, the valuable contributions of these public goods projects will receive the attention they deserve from a much larger group of people. Step-by-Step Guide to Pairwise Vote on Pairwise: signal Optimism Retro Funding and earn rewards! Dive into Pairwise and signal your opinion on the impact of projects in Retro Funding 4 ! If you have any questions, or issues, please join our Telegram support channel 2 for immediate support!
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Pairwise is LIVE! We invite you to signal in Retro Funding 4
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: June 29, 2024, 3:09 p.m.
Content: 1200 × 676 306 KB
Try it at https://pairwise.vote!
We welcome you to be part of of our ongoing experiment to improve digital democracy. Discover new projects that match your interests, choose who made more impact and vote pseudonymously!
Play to Win - 4000 OP up for grabs!
1200 × 675 175 KB
For every category you rank, you will increase your chances of winning part of our 4000 OP prize pool. There will be 40 lucky winners and the more you rank the more likely you will be one of them. Deep dive into the rules at the end of this post.
Why are we doing this?
Pairwise’s goal is to make voting in Retro Funding rounds simple and fun.
This massively improved version of Pairwise is a new experiment where we give OP Delegates, OP Token holders, RF 4 Recipients as well as RF 4 Badgeholders an opportunity to signal their preferences in Retro Funding 4 (RF 4 ). Each of these four stakeholder groups will have their own voting results; we are excited to see how they compare!
We hope this effort will not only explore a new voting methodology for ranking Retro Funding projects, but also significantly promote the work done by all the projects accepted into RF 4 . We want to showcase the value these projects provided to the Superchain to an audience beyond the ~ 130 badgeholders. This way, the valuable contributions of these public goods projects will receive the attention they deserve from a much larger group of people.
Step-by-Step Guide to Pairwise
Vote on Pairwise: signal Optimism Retro Funding and earn rewards!
Dive into Pairwise and signal your opinion on the impact of projects in Retro Funding 4 !
If you have any questions, or issues, please join our Telegram support channel for immediate support!
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Pairwise is LIVE! We invite you to signal in Retro Funding 4
by Griff - No Role
Posted on: June 29, 2024, 3:09 p.m.
Content: 1200 × 676 306 KB
Try it at https://pairwise.vote 27 !
We welcome you to be part of of our ongoing experiment to improve digital democracy. Discover new projects that match your interests, choose who made more impact and vote pseudonymously!
Play to Win - 4000 OP up for grabs!
1200 × 675 175 KB
For every category you rank, you will increase your chances of winning part of our 4000 OP prize pool. There will be 40 lucky winners and the more you rank the more likely you will be one of them. Deep dive into the rules at the end of this post 3 .
Why are we doing this?
Pairwise’s goal is to make voting in Retro Funding rounds simple and fun.
This massively improved version of Pairwise is a new experiment where we give OP Delegates, OP Token holders, RF 4 Recipients as well as RF 4 Badgeholders an opportunity to signal their preferences in Retro Funding 4 (RF 4 ). Each of these four stakeholder groups will have their own voting results; we are excited to see how they compare!
We hope this effort will not only explore a new voting methodology for ranking Retro Funding projects, but also significantly promote the work done by all the projects accepted into RF 4 . We want to showcase the value these projects provided to the Superchain to an audience beyond the ~ 130 badgeholders. This way, the valuable contributions of these public goods projects will receive the attention they deserve from a much larger group of people.
Step-by-Step Guide to Pairwise
Vote on Pairwise: signal Optimism Retro Funding and earn rewards!
Dive into Pairwise and signal your opinion on the impact of projects in Retro Funding 4 !
If you have any questions, or issues, please join our Telegram support channel 4 for immediate support!
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