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AIRDROP #2 eligibility process suggestions
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Dec. 14, 2022, 8:07 a.m.
Content: I am not familiar with BrightID but I don’t like the idea of Digital IDs because I rather value my anonymity. That’s what I love about Crypto and what made me join it.
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AIRDROP #2 eligibility process suggestions
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Dec. 14, 2022, 3:07 a.m.
Content: I am not familiar with BrightID but I don’t like the idea of Digital IDs because I rather value my anonymity.
That’s what I love about Crypto and what made me join it.
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Maruf,
cubolt,
speis,
horn,
0x666,
Aarona,
Jeroni0o0o06,
5c9a,
Alexxx0851,
Baki,
Luckymonkey,
IrVar9
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- Merbuti: I agree but so many people can not install bright id to Pc as it is must to install to mobile
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[Temp-Check] - Give Incentives to Solve Voters Apathy
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 19, 2022, 2:28 p.m.
Content: The further I keep digging into that topic the less I agree with you even though I see where you are coming from. Incentives do make votes meaningful. Here are the 5 most common incentives to pick from: GOALS. Some people are motivated by the pursuit of a particular achievement, and the knowledge that they’re the person who made something happen. For example, the billionaire space race between Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, and Elon Musk. GLORY. Others seek the public recognition they get from achieving something. For them, an achievement would feel much less rewarding if no one knew about it. This incentive is common in areas like academia and sport. GUTS. For some, it’s more about the arduous journey. For example, many marathon runners are spurred on by the gruelling hours of training and the mental resilience required to succeed at long-distance running. GOLD. Putting aside the goal, the recognition, and the challenges along the way, some people are simply motivated by money, prizes, or some other kind of tangible reward. GREATER GOOD. In the cases of climate change, persistent inequality, and other major societal challenges, many people are called to innovate by an inner sense of justice or altruism, care for others, and a desire for a better future. Translated to our “voter apathy” cause I would formulate it as follow: The people who are already motivated by the pursuit of a particular achievement, by that I mean seeing OP win are already participating and are already actively voting and delegating. They don’t need another incentive. (But I guess these are the least of all people) People seeking the incentive of GLORY could be incentivized by some sort of badge of honor similar to getting a NFT by finishing a certain quest. Make a quest for participating in the delegation and voting process. Nothing comes to my mind that would be comparable to this type of incentive to be honest. (probably need to think about it a little longer). That’s the incentive I’ve already pointed out and which is the most obvious thus I won’t go into further detail. (For reference see my earlier post here) This is what we are already doing here by discussing the topic and trying to find a solution to it. We are doing it for the greater good. In summary these are the types of the most common incentives we could use to fix the apathy of voters. Furthermore if I look at the most common reasons for not voting include (source 1 ): People don’t think it makes a difference A complex voter registration process They don’t like the candidate or campaign issues They are to busy of having conflicting schedules Regarding Number 1 I’ve already taken my stance on this one in my inicial post, which can in my opinion only be fixed by showing them that their vote can make a difference. But to make it thus far we first need to get them to vote at all. Since there is no complex voter registration process we can discard this one as well as not liking the candidate or campaign issue since I guess we all more or less like OP and want it to succeed. Number 4 . however could be tackled by giving people a monetary incentive because nobody is too busy or has no time - it’s just not their priority. By giving an incentive whether it is by completing a quest and earning a NFT or getting rewards in form of OP tokens or even being eligible for future airdrops will definitely solve this one. So 33 % of the issues we face today could be fixed by giving people an incentive. Thus I have to come to the conclusion that I have to disagree with your overall stance on “Incentives aren’t going to make votes meaningful to the point where stakeholders see it as being in their benefit to participate in governance, whether by voting, delegating actively, or engaging in discussions.”!
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[Temp-Check] - Give Incentives to Solve Voters Apathy
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 19, 2022, 9:28 a.m.
Content: The further I keep digging into that topic the less I agree with you even though I see where you are coming from. Incentives do make votes meaningful.
Here are the 5 most common incentives to pick from:
GOALS. Some people are motivated by the pursuit of a particular achievement, and the knowledge that they’re the person who made something happen. For example, the billionaire space race between Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, and Elon Musk.
GLORY. Others seek the public recognition they get from achieving something. For them, an achievement would feel much less rewarding if no one knew about it. This incentive is common in areas like academia and sport.
GUTS. For some, it’s more about the arduous journey. For example, many marathon runners are spurred on by the gruelling hours of training and the mental resilience required to succeed at long-distance running.
GOLD. Putting aside the goal, the recognition, and the challenges along the way, some people are simply motivated by money, prizes, or some other kind of tangible reward.
GREATER GOOD. In the cases of climate change, persistent inequality, and other major societal challenges, many people are called to innovate by an inner sense of justice or altruism, care for others, and a desire for a better future.
Translated to our “voter apathy” cause I would formulate it as follow:
The people who are already motivated by the pursuit of a particular achievement, by that I mean seeing OP win are already participating and are already actively voting and delegating. They don’t need another incentive. (But I guess these are the least of all people)
People seeking the incentive of GLORY could be incentivized by some sort of badge of honor similar to getting a NFT by finishing a certain quest. Make a quest for participating in the delegation and voting process.
Nothing comes to my mind that would be comparable to this type of incentive to be honest. (probably need to think about it a little longer).
That’s the incentive I’ve already pointed out and which is the most obvious thus I won’t go into further detail. (For reference see my earlier post here)
This is what we are already doing here by discussing the topic and trying to find a solution to it. We are doing it for the greater good.
In summary these are the types of the most common incentives we could use to fix the apathy of voters.
Furthermore if I look at the most common reasons for not voting include (source 1 ):
People don’t think it makes a difference
A complex voter registration process
They don’t like the candidate or campaign issues
They are to busy of having conflicting schedules
Regarding Number 1 I’ve already taken my stance on this one in my inicial post, which can in my opinion only be fixed by showing them that their vote can make a difference. But to make it thus far we first need to get them to vote at all. Since there is no complex voter registration process we can discard this one as well as not liking the candidate or campaign issue since I guess we all more or less like OP and want it to succeed. Number 4 . however could be tackled by giving people a monetary incentive because nobody is too busy or has no time - it’s just not their priority. By giving an incentive whether it is by completing a quest and earning a NFT or getting rewards in form of OP tokens or even being eligible for future airdrops will definitely solve this one. So 33 % of the issues we face today could be fixed by giving people an incentive. Thus I have to come to the conclusion that I have to disagree with your overall stance on “Incentives aren’t going to make votes meaningful to the point where stakeholders see it as being in their benefit to participate in governance, whether by voting, delegating actively, or engaging in discussions.”!
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[Temp-Check] - Give Incentives to Solve Voters Apathy
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 12, 2022, 2:57 p.m.
Content: There is an old saying by Mark Twain: “If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.”, and I think this holds true to most of our western “democracies” on a grand scheme of things. Not in like the little regional votings in small towns or villages, but on a national level. I’ve checked different elections in the past in “western countries” and in many of these 40 % percent or even more of the voting-age population didn’t vote at all. Why is that? The answer is simple, each new election Politicians promise changes that will benefit the people but in the end they are just lying to them in order to get the most votes. Once elected they usually don’t follow through on their claims and most people by now have figured this out and have resigned because they learned that in the end voting doesn’t change a thing. The remaining 60 % of the voting-age population or at least a big chunk of them are hopeless romantics who probably think that, “this time it will be different”. This time they will follow through on their promises. There are certainly more factors to it but this is I think the biggest issue of all. Now since only 8 to 12 % of the “voting-age population” is voting at the moment one could argue that the described issue at top can be translated into our current “voter apathy” issue on the Optimism Collective. Now how do we change that? The only option that comes to my mind is to eradicate this presumption by showing that their vote can actually make a difference and actually change something. But in order to do so we first need an incentive for people to vote. The different options coming to my mind can be found here 3 .
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[Temp-Check] - Give Incentives to Solve Voters Apathy
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 12, 2022, 9:57 a.m.
Content: There is an old saying by Mark Twain: “If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.”, and I think this holds true to most of our western “democracies” on a grand scheme of things. Not in like the little regional votings in small towns or villages, but on a national level. I’ve checked different elections in the past in “western countries” and in many of these 40 % percent or even more of the voting-age population didn’t vote at all. Why is that? The answer is simple, each new election Politicians promise changes that will benefit the people but in the end they are just lying to them in order to get the most votes. Once elected they usually don’t follow through on their claims and most people by now have figured this out and have resigned because they learned that in the end voting doesn’t change a thing. The remaining 60 % of the voting-age population or at least a big chunk of them are hopeless romantics who probably think that, “this time it will be different”. This time they will follow through on their promises.
There are certainly more factors to it but this is I think the biggest issue of all.
Now since only 8 to 12 % of the “voting-age population” is voting at the moment one could argue that the described issue at top can be translated into our current “voter apathy” issue on the Optimism Collective. Now how do we change that?
The only option that comes to my mind is to eradicate this presumption by showing that their vote can actually make a difference and actually change something. But in order to do so we first need an incentive for people to vote. The different options coming to my mind can be found here 3 .
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Suggestion: Do a second airdrop now!
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 8, 2022, 7:15 p.m.
Content: Here is a little suggestion from my side. After following the carnage in today’s market with the potential FTX meltdown and all the negativity that comes with it, it might be a great counter move to do a second airdrop now (in the very near future). OP has built some really nice momentum the last couple of weeks/months, with some great development and rapidly expanding its community/user base. To keep this going it would be a really smart move to reward the community with a little “gift”, especially at times like this. I am fully aware of the fact that I have no clue what is going on behind the scenes and know nothing about any plans of future airdrops. Thus this is only a suggestion from my side. Peace out. And don’t keep your coins on exchanges. Always remember - Not your keys, not your coins.
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Suggestion: Do a second airdrop now!
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 8, 2022, 2:15 p.m.
Content: Here is a little suggestion from my side. After following the carnage in today’s market with the potential FTX meltdown and all the negativity that comes with it, it might be a great counter move to do a second airdrop now (in the very near future). OP has built some really nice momentum the last couple of weeks/months, with some great development and rapidly expanding its community/user base. To keep this going it would be a really smart move to reward the community with a little “gift”, especially at times like this.
I am fully aware of the fact that I have no clue what is going on behind the scenes and know nothing about any plans of future airdrops. Thus this is only a suggestion from my side.
Peace out. And don’t keep your coins on exchanges. Always remember - Not your keys, not your coins.
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Solving voter apathy
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 7, 2022, 10:33 a.m.
Content: I’d be on board in finding a long term solution to this. Here are some of my ideas. If you are guys still onto it. Might be outdated since this was posted in July already.
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Solving voter apathy
by S4t0sh1 - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 7, 2022, 10:31 a.m.
Content: For me there are two “easy” solutions to this. Incentive to vote. Give people a reward for delegating their voting power. By incentive to vote I mean something like - in order to be eligible for future airdrops you must delegate your voting power. By giving people a reward and this includes being able to be eligible for future airdrops, I mean a reward upfront for example if you delegate your voting power you get X amount of tokens as a direct reward sent to your wallet. Another option coming to my mind is, if you want to encourage people to engage in the voting process you should also reward that. Let’s say there is a new proposal and the delegate you support is voting for it and after the voting process gets approved/implemented everybody gets rewarded (the delegate and the people behind it get a reward in form of OP tokens, just like the various dapps in the OP Summer incentive). One other issue I and I guess many others have is, if you use your OP tokens for buying/selling NFTs or staking them on the various defi platforms like Sonne, IronBank or Tarot they get locked up and in order to vote right before the snapshot you have to stop all of that just to delegate your voting power, which requires a lot of time and transaction cost in order to do so. With Zero benefit on the other side. Why should people delegate then?
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