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Is the Superchain vision too /optimistic/ on EVM execution?
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Feb. 7, 2024, 3:43 p.m.
Content: Hi everyone, CJ here, co-founder at Limitless Labs and RPGF 2 & 3 Badgeholder. In recent months at Limitless, we have been conducting a lot of R&D around fully onchain gaming infrastructure. Since real time onchain games can be considered some of the most gas thirsty apps that are out there today, we have explored a wealth of topics: from storage engines / data patterns, to shared sequencer designs, composable rollup architectures, and novel execution environments. A majority of these things can be more feasibly & efficiently applied to financial applications, since for example writing a custom state machine or leveraging WASM to run Rust & Go programs can enable things like highly efficient central limit order books and in general greatly enhance the performance, memory & developer experience / reach of a given layer 2 solution. In general, one might argue that this is easier to solve for than a real time game- there is also no need to implement things like game loops. My co-founder is also a Badgeholder & active in governance, our team are perpetual Optimists and we love the Superchain. I am trying to figure out how to align our research efforts with the Collective, given the set of limitations currently faced by Superchain ecosystem developers. Also, I am curious to learn more about the approach to funding & supporting the development of “OP Stack Hacks” especially as they relate to ensuring the competitiveness of the Superchain relative to other offerings that are out there. Of course, the current state of things (ie Immutable deploying a zkEVM without a prover) mean that vibes & distribution seem to have more weight than actual tech but nevertheless when you look across L 2 land as a whole you do see other ecosystems trying to solve some of the challenges I’m referencing here which may give them some advantage moving forwards. In the Superchain Explainer 1 , a broad vision for a network of commoditised L 2 s as interchangeable compute resources is described. We can all agree on the immense value of scaleable decentralized compute & how such features may replace centralised backends to deliver a trustless web. However, moving onto the core concepts of the Superchain, the first point that is referenced is achieving horizontal scalability by spinning up multiple chains. I think what is lacking here is a consensus on what constitutes horizontal scalability. OP Chains may be co-equal in many senses, but if each of them are independently ordered by a single sequencer, how actually will any degree of synchronicity or seamless communication be established between them? Does fragmentation = horizontal scaling? For sure there is an increase in machines, but if they cannot interoperate efficiently what is to suggest they’re a part of the same system except technical equivalence or the fact that they each derive security from Ethereum? I’m genuinely curious if it is notably easier to pass messages between 2 OP Chains or an OP Chain & an Arbitrum Orbit chain in the current state? In my view, OP Chains in this case are independent systems that each execute & order their own transactions and settle them on Ethereum and sacrificing fraud proof security to decrease latency does not feel like the right solution. I also don’t believe that validity proof aggregation is a superior or more performant solution to a shared sequencing protocol that is sufficiently secure & handles communication across instances, potentially even synchronously depending on the case. The next point that I am unsure about is the need to commoditise layer 2 s at all, or at least commoditise them in such a way that greatly limits their capabilities. We have already learned from web 2 and from Ethereum that a single, general purpose machine does not work efficiently for all use cases & can’t scale. It is clear to me that as Dapps become more expressive & demanding, as onchain games for example, there are many cases whereby a single rollup instance will not suffice even without DA bottlenecks. It appears to me that the bottleneck that will remain is execution, and this is not to mention that Solidity & the EVM in general is already a very constrained environment. If we want to replace centralised backends, will EVM replications that struggle to communicate with each other efficiently really suffice? Or should we encourage more experiments when it comes to the execution environment & ordering protocol? Such a possibility that is afforded to us by the flexibility of rollups. One case that I would like to call your attention to is that of the Arbitrum Stylus 1 alpha / testnet, that leverages WASM to enable developers to write smart contracts in Rust, Go, C++ etc. The EVM & optimistic WASM in this case are co-equal and can interoperate, performance & memory are improved by an order of magnitude and there are future plans to integrate this with Orbit chains. Layer N also recently announced impressive performance benchmarks 1 for their Nord Engine 1 , which leverages a Rust execution environment for an enhanced trading experience. Not only does performance increase greatly, but the door is opened to features prevalent in centralised exchanges like efficient cross-margin. Each instance (whether EVM or custom execution environments with specified inputs and outputs) in their ecosystem will share a state & liquidity layer and interoperate seamlessly. Interestingly, they plan to leverage the Risc Zero zkVM for fraud proving. At a more abstract but similarly applicable level, Argus have taken a similar approach with the World Engine- by writing a custom Go state machine (also achieving impressive performance benchmarks 1 ) and leveraging a shared sequencer design for cross-instance interop / horizontal scaling. The benefits that such systems can provide are clear, and in my view would meaningfully bring the Superchain closer to upgrading the web. I genuinely would love to hear your feedback and I’m also open to the fact that I may have pieced things together in an inaccurate way given the documentation that is currently available. Perhaps there are also other resources or conversations happening elsewhere that I am unaware of. If so, please point me in that direction- I’d be extremely grateful. Please forgive me if I am making some mistakes or misjudgments here. I just want to be as direct & as open as possible in a public discourse, to learn from all the great minds in this community if nothing else. Beyond that, this might serve as a temperature check to understand the desire of the Collective to research and discover how the capabilities of the Superchain may be securely broadened in order to serve more developers & use cases. We are happy to lead on these efforts and anyway plan to design & develop a similar architecture to those described above for our intended use cases. Our preference of course is doing so with the support of the Optimism Collective, and ensuring compatibility with the Superchain. Thanks!
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Is the Superchain vision too /optimistic/ on EVM execution?
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Feb. 7, 2024, 10:43 a.m.
Content: Hi everyone, CJ here, co-founder at Limitless Labs and RPGF 2 & 3 Badgeholder. In recent months at Limitless, we have been conducting a lot of R&D around fully onchain gaming infrastructure. Since real time onchain games can be considered some of the most gas thirsty apps that are out there today, we have explored a wealth of topics: from storage engines / data patterns, to shared sequencer designs, composable rollup architectures, and novel execution environments.
A majority of these things can be more feasibly & efficiently applied to financial applications, since for example writing a custom state machine or leveraging WASM to run Rust & Go programs can enable things like highly efficient central limit order books and in general greatly enhance the performance, memory & developer experience / reach of a given layer 2 solution. In general, one might argue that this is easier to solve for than a real time game- there is also no need to implement things like game loops.
My co-founder is also a Badgeholder & active in governance, our team are perpetual Optimists and we love the Superchain. I am trying to figure out how to align our research efforts with the Collective, given the set of limitations currently faced by Superchain ecosystem developers. Also, I am curious to learn more about the approach to funding & supporting the development of “OP Stack Hacks” especially as they relate to ensuring the competitiveness of the Superchain relative to other offerings that are out there.
Of course, the current state of things (ie Immutable deploying a zkEVM without a prover) mean that vibes & distribution seem to have more weight than actual tech but nevertheless when you look across L 2 land as a whole you do see other ecosystems trying to solve some of the challenges I’m referencing here which may give them some advantage moving forwards.
In the Superchain Explainer, a broad vision for a network of commoditised L 2 s as interchangeable compute resources is described.
We can all agree on the immense value of scaleable decentralized compute & how such features may replace centralised backends to deliver a trustless web.
However, moving onto the core concepts of the Superchain, the first point that is referenced is achieving horizontal scalability by spinning up multiple chains. I think what is lacking here is a consensus on what constitutes horizontal scalability. OP Chains may be co-equal in many senses, but if each of them are independently ordered by a single sequencer, how actually will any degree of synchronicity or seamless communication be established between them? Does fragmentation = horizontal scaling? For sure there is an increase in machines, but if they cannot interoperate efficiently what is to suggest they’re a part of the same system except technical equivalence or the fact that they each derive security from Ethereum? I’m genuinely curious if it is notably easier to pass messages between 2 OP Chains or an OP Chain & an Arbitrum Orbit chain in the current state?
In my view, OP Chains in this case are independent systems that each execute & order their own transactions and settle them on Ethereum and sacrificing fraud proof security to decrease latency does not feel like the right solution. I also don’t believe that validity proof aggregation is a superior or more performant solution to a shared sequencing protocol that is sufficiently secure & handles communication across instances, potentially even synchronously depending on the case.
The next point that I am unsure about is the need to commoditise layer 2 s at all, or at least commoditise them in such a way that greatly limits their capabilities. We have already learned from web 2 and from Ethereum that a single, general purpose machine does not work efficiently for all use cases & can’t scale. It is clear to me that as Dapps become more expressive & demanding, as onchain games for example, there are many cases whereby a single rollup instance will not suffice even without DA bottlenecks. It appears to me that the bottleneck that will remain is execution, and this is not to mention that Solidity & the EVM in general is already a very constrained environment.
If we want to replace centralised backends, will EVM replications that struggle to communicate with each other efficiently really suffice? Or should we encourage more experiments when it comes to the execution environment & ordering protocol? Such a possibility that is afforded to us by the flexibility of rollups.
One case that I would like to call your attention to is that of the Arbitrum Stylus alpha / testnet, that leverages WASM to enable developers to write smart contracts in Rust, Go, C++ etc. The EVM & optimistic WASM in this case are co-equal and can interoperate, performance & memory are improved by an order of magnitude and there are future plans to integrate this with Orbit chains.
Layer N also recently announced impressive performance benchmarks for their Nord Engine, which leverages a Rust execution environment for an enhanced trading experience. Not only does performance increase greatly, but the door is opened to features prevalent in centralised exchanges like efficient cross-margin. Each instance (whether EVM or custom execution environments with specified inputs and outputs) in their ecosystem will share a state & liquidity layer and interoperate seamlessly. Interestingly, they plan to leverage the Risc Zero zkVM for fraud proving.
At a more abstract but similarly applicable level, Argus have taken a similar approach with the World Engine- by writing a custom Go state machine (also achieving impressive performance benchmarks) and leveraging a shared sequencer design for cross-instance interop / horizontal scaling.
The benefits that such systems can provide are clear, and in my view would meaningfully bring the Superchain closer to upgrading the web.
I genuinely would love to hear your feedback and I’m also open to the fact that I may have pieced things together in an inaccurate way given the documentation that is currently available. Perhaps there are also other resources or conversations happening elsewhere that I am unaware of. If so, please point me in that direction- I’d be extremely grateful.
Please forgive me if I am making some mistakes or misjudgments here. I just want to be as direct & as open as possible in a public discourse, to learn from all the great minds in this community if nothing else.
Beyond that, this might serve as a temperature check to understand the desire of the Collective to research and discover how the capabilities of the Superchain may be securely broadened in order to serve more developers & use cases.
We are happy to lead on these efforts and anyway plan to design & develop a similar architecture to those described above for our intended use cases. Our preference of course is doing so with the support of the Optimism Collective, and ensuring compatibility with the Superchain.
Thanks!
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Is the Superchain vision too /optimistic/ on EVM execution?
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Feb. 7, 2024, 10:43 a.m.
Content: Hi everyone, CJ here, co-founder at Limitless Labs and RPGF 2 & 3 Badgeholder. In recent months at Limitless, we have been conducting a lot of R&D around fully onchain gaming infrastructure. Since real time onchain games can be considered some of the most gas thirsty apps that are out there today, we have explored a wealth of topics: from storage engines / data patterns, to shared sequencer designs, composable rollup architectures, and novel execution environments.
A majority of these things can be more feasibly & efficiently applied to financial applications, since for example writing a custom state machine or leveraging WASM to run Rust & Go programs can enable things like highly efficient central limit order books and in general greatly enhance the performance, memory & developer experience / reach of a given layer 2 solution. In general, one might argue that this is easier to solve for than a real time game- there is also no need to implement things like game loops.
My co-founder is also a Badgeholder & active in governance, our team are perpetual Optimists and we love the Superchain. I am trying to figure out how to align our research efforts with the Collective, given the set of limitations currently faced by Superchain ecosystem developers. Also, I am curious to learn more about the approach to funding & supporting the development of “OP Stack Hacks” especially as they relate to ensuring the competitiveness of the Superchain relative to other offerings that are out there.
Of course, the current state of things (ie Immutable deploying a zkEVM without a prover) mean that vibes & distribution seem to have more weight than actual tech but nevertheless when you look across L 2 land as a whole you do see other ecosystems trying to solve some of the challenges I’m referencing here which may give them some advantage moving forwards.
In the Superchain Explainer 2 , a broad vision for a network of commoditised L 2 s as interchangeable compute resources is described.
We can all agree on the immense value of scaleable decentralized compute & how such features may replace centralised backends to deliver a trustless web.
However, moving onto the core concepts of the Superchain, the first point that is referenced is achieving horizontal scalability by spinning up multiple chains. I think what is lacking here is a consensus on what constitutes horizontal scalability. OP Chains may be co-equal in many senses, but if each of them are independently ordered by a single sequencer, how actually will any degree of synchronicity or seamless communication be established between them? Does fragmentation = horizontal scaling? For sure there is an increase in machines, but if they cannot interoperate efficiently what is to suggest they’re a part of the same system except technical equivalence or the fact that they each derive security from Ethereum? I’m genuinely curious if it is notably easier to pass messages between 2 OP Chains or an OP Chain & an Arbitrum Orbit chain in the current state?
In my view, OP Chains in this case are independent systems that each execute & order their own transactions and settle them on Ethereum and sacrificing fraud proof security to decrease latency does not feel like the right solution. I also don’t believe that validity proof aggregation is a superior or more performant solution to a shared sequencing protocol that is sufficiently secure & handles communication across instances, potentially even synchronously depending on the case.
The next point that I am unsure about is the need to commoditise layer 2 s at all, or at least commoditise them in such a way that greatly limits their capabilities. We have already learned from web 2 and from Ethereum that a single, general purpose machine does not work efficiently for all use cases & can’t scale. It is clear to me that as Dapps become more expressive & demanding, as onchain games for example, there are many cases whereby a single rollup instance will not suffice even without DA bottlenecks. It appears to me that the bottleneck that will remain is execution, and this is not to mention that Solidity & the EVM in general is already a very constrained environment.
If we want to replace centralised backends, will EVM replications that struggle to communicate with each other efficiently really suffice? Or should we encourage more experiments when it comes to the execution environment & ordering protocol? Such a possibility that is afforded to us by the flexibility of rollups.
One case that I would like to call your attention to is that of the Arbitrum Stylus 1 alpha / testnet, that leverages WASM to enable developers to write smart contracts in Rust, Go, C++ etc. The EVM & optimistic WASM in this case are co-equal and can interoperate, performance & memory are improved by an order of magnitude and there are future plans to integrate this with Orbit chains.
Layer N also recently announced impressive performance benchmarks 2 for their Nord Engine 1 , which leverages a Rust execution environment for an enhanced trading experience. Not only does performance increase greatly, but the door is opened to features prevalent in centralised exchanges like efficient cross-margin. Each instance (whether EVM or custom execution environments with specified inputs and outputs) in their ecosystem will share a state & liquidity layer and interoperate seamlessly. Interestingly, they plan to leverage the Risc Zero zkVM for fraud proving.
At a more abstract but similarly applicable level, Argus have taken a similar approach with the World Engine- by writing a custom Go state machine (also achieving impressive performance benchmarks 1 ) and leveraging a shared sequencer design for cross-instance interop / horizontal scaling.
The benefits that such systems can provide are clear, and in my view would meaningfully bring the Superchain closer to upgrading the web.
I genuinely would love to hear your feedback and I’m also open to the fact that I may have pieced things together in an inaccurate way given the documentation that is currently available. Perhaps there are also other resources or conversations happening elsewhere that I am unaware of. If so, please point me in that direction- I’d be extremely grateful.
Please forgive me if I am making some mistakes or misjudgments here. I just want to be as direct & as open as possible in a public discourse, to learn from all the great minds in this community if nothing else.
Beyond that, this might serve as a temperature check to understand the desire of the Collective to research and discover how the capabilities of the Superchain may be securely broadened in order to serve more developers & use cases.
We are happy to lead on these efforts and anyway plan to design & develop a similar architecture to those described above for our intended use cases. Our preference of course is doing so with the support of the Optimism Collective, and ensuring compatibility with the Superchain.
Thanks!
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[DRAFT] Upgrade Proposal: Bedrock
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Feb. 2, 2023, 12:14 a.m.
Content: what a fantastic moment in Ethereum scaling history- I’m excited beyond belief and incredibly grateful for the team pouring energy into co-ordinating this reality. values win, persistence is key.
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[DRAFT] Upgrade Proposal: Bedrock
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Posted on: Feb. 1, 2023, 7:14 p.m.
Content: what a fantastic moment in Ethereum scaling history- I’m excited beyond belief and incredibly grateful for the team pouring energy into co-ordinating this reality. values win, persistence is key.
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[READY] [GF: Phase 1 Proposal] OptimismUA
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Jan. 31, 2023, 10:25 p.m.
Content: Project name: OptimismUA Author name and contact info: CJ Hetherington I understand that I will be required to provide additional KYC information to the Optimism Foundation to receive this grant: Yes I understand that I will be expected to following the public grant reporting requirements outlined here: Yes L 2 recipient address: 0 x 697694096351 E 1 Fa 73068 b 2 A 789 fBbB 1 C 796 a 3 C 0 Which Voting Cycle are you applying for?: Cycle 10 Which sub-committee should review your proposal? Growth Experiment Grants Project description: OptimismUA will become Optimism’s national hub in Ukraine. The mission of OptimismUA will be spreading Optimism’s vision, values, and tech to Ukrainians and onboarding new wave of Optimism users into the ecosystem. OptimismUA will lead on Optimism focused growth efforts in Ukraine, growing Optimism’s Ukrainian local community of builders, artists and general purpose audience (ft. even official collaborations with The Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine to onboard millions of Ukrainians into web 3 ). Project links: There are not yet any links associated with OptimismUA. Additional team member info: CJ Hetherington co-founder @ Atlantis World, KyivTech, web 3 partner @ TA Ventures(top 3 biggest VC in Ukraine, 99 th percentile globally), SavePak co-initiator, contributor to numerous DAOs, deployed one of the first-ever NFTxDeFi smart contracts to ETH mainnet. Member of WEF Crypto Sustainability Coalition. https://twitter.com/cjhtech Rev Miller co-founder @ Atlantis World, Unchain, KyivTech, contributor @ KERNEL (Gitcoin), and other public goods initiatives (SavePak, ChoiceDAO, etc) https://twitter.com/revrfg Nadia Yakubets PR&Comms @ KyivTech & Unchain. ex. Comms Lead at top 10 chocolate company in the world, top 3 electronics retailer in Ukraine, and top 3 biggest pharmaceutical company of Ukraine. https://twitter.com/nadiayakubets // depending on growth initiatives, we might onboard up to 3 contributors to help coordinate the processes @ OptimismUA. Please link to any previous projects the team has meaningfully contributed to: Atlantis World - web 3 social metaverse; built OP City ft. 15 k+ players on the launch https://gov.optimism.io/t/introducing-op-city-in-atlantis-world-to-the-optimism-collective/ 4307 Unchain Fund - web 3 native non-profit; raised ~$ 10 m in crypto donations, helped 400 k+ Ukrainians https://www.coindesk.com/podcasts/opinionated/crypto-and-the-situation-in-ukraine/ 1 https://forbes.ua/innovations/bitcoin-letit-vniz-ukrainski-volonterski-fondi-zibrali-v-kriptovalyutakh-ponad- 100 -mln-chi-mozhut-voni-vtratiti-pozhertvi-cherez-kriptozimu- 11052022 - 5938 1 (in UA lang) KyivTechSummit - public good mini-conference & wartime hackathon in bomb-shelter ft. 550 + hackers joining in Kyiv, Ukraine & all around the globe; inspired first ever visit of Vitalik Buterin to Ukraine. All funding raised was distributed between conference ops expenses(everyone volunteered), hackathon prizes & charitable donation to children affected by war. https://kyivtechsummit.com https://www.coindesk.com/business/ 2022 / 09 / 10 /vitalik-buterin-makes-surprise-appearance-at-kyiv-tech-summit-in-show-of-support-for-ukraine/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h 3 krD 4 lyat 0 WomenCryptoGuida - 2 . 5 k+ Ukrainian web 3 women community we’ve co-founded with ELLE magazine https://t.me/WomensCrypto KERNEL (Rev&CJ are guides @ KERNEL, contributing since May ‘ 21 ) TA Ventures https://taventures.vc/ 1 SavePak relief NFTs - We launched the first ever NFTs tied to real world humaniterian relief goods natively on Optimism- resulting in the distribution of food, water, sanitation and shelter to the frontlines of the climate fuelled flooding disaster in Pakistan which has unfortunately been affecting millions of innocent people. https://gov.optimism.io/t/savepakistan-launch-the-first-ever-nfts-tied-to-real-world-humanitarian-relief-goods-on-optimism/ 4370 1 Relevant usage metrics (TVL, transactions, volume, unique addresses, etc. Optimism metrics preferred; please link to public sources such as Dune Analytics, etc.): - N/A Competitors, peers, or similar projects (please link): - N/A Is/will this project be open sourced? Yes Optimism native?: Yes Date of deployment/expected deployment on Optimism: As soon as the proposal will be approved Ecosystem Value Proposition: What is the problem statement this proposal hopes to solve for the Optimism ecosystem? Despite being one of the very largest L 2 s in the Ethereum ecosystem, Optimism has a relatively small community in Ukraine. We have already taken steps to start building a strong community of Optimists here in Ukraine, for example featuring Optimism as a community partner at Kyiv Tech Summit where Vee kindly appeared on the “Peace as a public good” panel. We have directly introduced The Ministry of Digital Transformation to some core contributors @ OP Labs/Foundation to facilitate Optimism appearance in first-ever, state backed crypto education program that aims to onboard millions of Ukrainians in web 3 . We want to push even further, and build something undeniably strong for the long term- a beating heart of developers, creatives and public goods fighters. How does your proposal offer a value proposition solving the above problem? We are tackling long term oriented ecosystem development for Optimism in Ukraine from a variety of creative angles. Hackathons, meetups, user education, developer workshops, NFT activations, active OP community building in Ukraine, partnerships that’ll lead to onboarding newcomers into Optimism & building stronger ecosystem. Why will this solution be a source of growth for the Optimism ecosystem? The presence of Optimism in Ukraine will grow rapidly, resulting in the engagement of countless developers and true, value aligned torch carriers. Has your project previously applied for an OP grant? No Number of OP tokens requested: 200 , 000 $OP Did the project apply for or receive OP tokens through the Foundation Partner Fund? No If OP tokens were requested from the Foundation Partner Fund, what was the amount? N/A How much will your project match in co-incentives? N/A How will the OP tokens be distributed? 60 k OP ( 30 %) - Community events & Hackathons; Kyiv Tech Summit title sponsorship & hackathon prize pool OptimismUA NFT conference & OP Stack hackathon Quarterly OptimismUA community meetups & workshops Why: OP focused+featuring conferences, events & hackathons will lead onto building stronger OptimismUA community & Optimism brand awareness, usage & adoption. 80 k OP ( 40 %) - Growth initiatives; 10 month budget for community building, content creation, partnerships, other ops Branding, website, socials, swag Legal ops Why: We need to build strong brand and keep it consistent - sharing constant updates & value with OptimismUA community, be it with Optimism native ecosystem news, education content(original content, translations, viral content) and creative campaigns (ie. OP focused NFT art competition). We are also setting aside legal ops budget - if anything will remain, we’ll redistribute it into OptimismUA growth initiatives. 60 k OP ( 30 %) - Incentivised initiatives; Funding Ukrainian crypto education programs ft. Optimism Funding OP promo content with best national crypto media; pr&marketing Why: Leveraging existing, strong tech&crypto communities will help us onboard new users into Optimism ecosystem faster, build stronger credibility and (hopefully) network effects. Over what period of time will the tokens be distributed for each initiative? If the proposal will be approved (early March ‘ 23 ), we’ll distribute 100 % of the funds by the end of ‘ 23 , sharing consistent forum reports reports & progress. Please clearly define the milestones you expect to achieve in order to receive milestone based installments. Please consider how each milestone relates to incentivizing sustainable usage and liquidity on Optimism. Progress towards each milestone must be trackable. OptimismUA branding, website, socials, swag [Q 2 ‘ 23 ] Retroactively funding Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine crypto education course inside of Diia. [Q 2 ‘ 23 ] 1 st OptimismUA community meetup [Q 2 ‘ 23 ] Translating Optimism content in UA lang, building easy to navigate onboarding flow [Q 2 ‘ 23 ] featuring OP edu content in 9 + biggest tech/crypto medias of Ukraine [Q 2 -Q 4 ‘ 23 ] Sourcing potential OptimismUA partners (ie. crypto UA community stakeholders, tech edu orgs, gov collabs, universities&creative orgs), building relationships & launching OP focused/featuring campaigns.[Q 2 -Q 4 ‘ 23 ] Collaborating with The Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine one first ever crypto edu crypto program, further promoting Optimism brand, edu material, and practical cases ft. OP ecosystem protocols [Q 2 -Q 4 ‘ 23 ] KyivTechSummit title sponsorship & hackathon prize pool [Q 3 ‘ 23 ] Optimism Open NFT Call # 1 for 1 . 4 k+ Ukrainian NFT art community [Q 3 ’ 23 ] 2 nd OptimismUA community meetup [Q 3 ‘ 23 ] OptimismUA NFT conference & OP Stack hackathon [Q 4 ‘ 23 ] Optimism Open NFT Call # 2 for 1 . 4 k+ Ukrainian NFT art community [Q 4 ’ 23 ] 3 rd OptimismUA community meetup [Q 4 ‘ 23 ] NOTE: If the proposal pases, we’re committed to provide monthly or quarterly (depending on the community feedback) reports, and get the funding necessary per quarter. Why will incentivized users and liquidity on Optimism remain after incentives dry up? We want to build a grassroots, long lasting community movement, so that Optimism will always have a beating heart in Ukraine. We want to onboard developers, creatives, and public goods fighters to the ecosystem for the long term. Please provide any additional information that will facilitate accountability: We’re putting our personal reputation and brand of our existing projects (Atlantis World, KyivTech, Unchain, etc) on the line, and it’s in our best interest to deliver on our promises. We’ve been actively building within the Optimism ecosystem for over half year now, and genuinely fell in love with the vision, values, tech and beloved OP community. We’re happy to build OptimismUA in public, share the reports needed and keep ourselves accountable, being part of Optimism ecosystem ourselves.
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[READY] [GF: Phase 1 Proposal] OptimismUA
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Jan. 31, 2023, 5:25 p.m.
Content: Project name: OptimismUA
Author name and contact info: CJ Hetherington
I understand that I will be required to provide additional KYC information to the Optimism Foundation to receive this grant: Yes
I understand that I will be expected to following the public grant reporting requirements outlined here: Yes
L 2 recipient address: 0 x 697694096351 E 1 Fa 73068 b 2 A 789 fBbB 1 C 796 a 3 C 0
Which Voting Cycle are you applying for?: Cycle 10
Which sub-committee should review your proposal? Growth Experiment Grants
Project description: OptimismUA will become Optimism’s national hub in Ukraine. The mission of OptimismUA will be spreading Optimism’s vision, values, and tech to Ukrainians and onboarding new wave of Optimism users into the ecosystem. OptimismUA will lead on Optimism focused growth efforts in Ukraine, growing Optimism’s Ukrainian local community of builders, artists and general purpose audience (ft. even official collaborations with The Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine to onboard millions of Ukrainians into web 3 ).
Project links: There are not yet any links associated with OptimismUA.
Additional team member info:
CJ Hetherington
co-founder @ Atlantis World, KyivTech, web 3 partner @ TA Ventures(top 3 biggest VC in Ukraine, 99 th percentile globally), SavePak co-initiator, contributor to numerous DAOs, deployed one of the first-ever NFTxDeFi smart contracts to ETH mainnet. Member of WEF Crypto Sustainability Coalition.
https://twitter.com/cjhtech
Rev Miller
co-founder @ Atlantis World, Unchain, KyivTech, contributor @ KERNEL (Gitcoin), and other public goods initiatives (SavePak, ChoiceDAO, etc)
https://twitter.com/revrfg
Nadia Yakubets
PR&Comms @ KyivTech & Unchain. ex. Comms Lead at top 10 chocolate company in the world, top 3 electronics retailer in Ukraine, and top 3 biggest pharmaceutical company of Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/nadiayakubets
// depending on growth initiatives, we might onboard up to 3 contributors to help coordinate the processes @ OptimismUA.
Please link to any previous projects the team has meaningfully contributed to:
Atlantis World - web 3 social metaverse; built OP City ft. 15 k+ players on the launch
https://gov.optimism.io/t/introducing-op-city-in-atlantis-world-to-the-optimism-collective/ 4307
Unchain Fund - web 3 native non-profit; raised ~$ 10 m in crypto donations, helped 400 k+ Ukrainians
https://www.coindesk.com/podcasts/opinionated/crypto-and-the-situation-in-ukraine/
https://forbes.ua/innovations/bitcoin-letit-vniz-ukrainski-volonterski-fondi-zibrali-v-kriptovalyutakh-ponad- 100 -mln-chi-mozhut-voni-vtratiti-pozhertvi-cherez-kriptozimu- 11052022 - 5938 (in UA lang)
KyivTechSummit - public good mini-conference & wartime hackathon in bomb-shelter ft. 550 + hackers joining in Kyiv, Ukraine & all around the globe; inspired first ever visit of Vitalik Buterin to Ukraine. All funding raised was distributed between conference ops expenses(everyone volunteered), hackathon prizes & charitable donation to children affected by war.
https://kyivtechsummit.com
https://www.coindesk.com/business/ 2022 / 09 / 10 /vitalik-buterin-makes-surprise-appearance-at-kyiv-tech-summit-in-show-of-support-for-ukraine/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h 3 krD 4 lyat 0
WomenCryptoGuida - 2 . 5 k+ Ukrainian web 3 women community we’ve co-founded with ELLE magazine
https://t.me/WomensCrypto
KERNEL (Rev&CJ are guides @ KERNEL, contributing since May ‘ 21 )
TA Ventures
https://taventures.vc/
SavePak relief NFTs - We launched the first ever NFTs tied to real world humaniterian relief goods natively on Optimism- resulting in the distribution of food, water, sanitation and shelter to the frontlines of the climate fuelled flooding disaster in Pakistan which has unfortunately been affecting millions of innocent people.
https://gov.optimism.io/t/savepakistan-launch-the-first-ever-nfts-tied-to-real-world-humanitarian-relief-goods-on-optimism/ 4370
Relevant usage metrics (TVL, transactions, volume, unique addresses, etc. Optimism metrics preferred; please link to public sources such as Dune Analytics, etc.): - N/A
Competitors, peers, or similar projects (please link): - N/A
Is/will this project be open sourced? Yes
Optimism native?: Yes
Date of deployment/expected deployment on Optimism: As soon as the proposal will be approved
Ecosystem Value Proposition:
What is the problem statement this proposal hopes to solve for the Optimism ecosystem?
Despite being one of the very largest L 2 s in the Ethereum ecosystem, Optimism has a relatively small community in Ukraine. We have already taken steps to start building a strong community of Optimists here in Ukraine, for example featuring Optimism as a community partner at Kyiv Tech Summit where Vee kindly appeared on the “Peace as a public good” panel. We have directly introduced The Ministry of Digital Transformation to some core contributors @ OP Labs/Foundation to facilitate Optimism appearance in first-ever, state backed crypto education program that aims to onboard millions of Ukrainians in web 3 . We want to push even further, and build something undeniably strong for the long term- a beating heart of developers, creatives and public goods fighters.
How does your proposal offer a value proposition solving the above problem?
We are tackling long term oriented ecosystem development for Optimism in Ukraine from a variety of creative angles. Hackathons, meetups, user education, developer workshops, NFT activations, active OP community building in Ukraine, partnerships that’ll lead to onboarding newcomers into Optimism & building stronger ecosystem.
Why will this solution be a source of growth for the Optimism ecosystem?
The presence of Optimism in Ukraine will grow rapidly, resulting in the engagement of countless developers and true, value aligned torch carriers.
Has your project previously applied for an OP grant? No
Number of OP tokens requested: 200 , 000 $OP
Did the project apply for or receive OP tokens through the Foundation Partner Fund? No
If OP tokens were requested from the Foundation Partner Fund, what was the amount? N/A
How much will your project match in co-incentives? N/A
How will the OP tokens be distributed?
60 k OP ( 30 %) - Community events & Hackathons;
Kyiv Tech Summit title sponsorship & hackathon prize pool
OptimismUA NFT conference & OP Stack hackathon
Quarterly OptimismUA community meetups & workshops
Why: OP focused+featuring conferences, events & hackathons will lead onto building stronger OptimismUA community & Optimism brand awareness, usage & adoption.
80 k OP ( 40 %) - Growth initiatives;
10 month budget for community building, content creation, partnerships, other ops
Branding, website, socials, swag
Legal ops
Why: We need to build strong brand and keep it consistent - sharing constant updates & value with OptimismUA community, be it with Optimism native ecosystem news, education content(original content, translations, viral content) and creative campaigns (ie. OP focused NFT art competition). We are also setting aside legal ops budget - if anything will remain, we’ll redistribute it into OptimismUA growth initiatives.
60 k OP ( 30 %) - Incentivised initiatives;
Funding Ukrainian crypto education programs ft. Optimism
Funding OP promo content with best national crypto media; pr&marketing
Why: Leveraging existing, strong tech&crypto communities will help us onboard new users into Optimism ecosystem faster, build stronger credibility and (hopefully) network effects.
Over what period of time will the tokens be distributed for each initiative?
If the proposal will be approved (early March ‘ 23 ), we’ll distribute 100 % of the funds by the end of ‘ 23 , sharing consistent forum reports reports & progress.
Please clearly define the milestones you expect to achieve in order to receive milestone based installments. Please consider how each milestone relates to incentivizing sustainable usage and liquidity on Optimism. Progress towards each milestone must be trackable.
OptimismUA branding, website, socials, swag [Q 2 ‘ 23 ]
Retroactively funding Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine crypto education course inside of Diia. [Q 2 ‘ 23 ]
1 st OptimismUA community meetup [Q 2 ‘ 23 ]
Translating Optimism content in UA lang, building easy to navigate onboarding flow [Q 2 ‘ 23 ]
featuring OP edu content in 9 + biggest tech/crypto medias of Ukraine [Q 2 -Q 4 ‘ 23 ]
Sourcing potential OptimismUA partners (ie. crypto UA community stakeholders, tech edu orgs, gov collabs, universities&creative orgs), building relationships & launching OP focused/featuring campaigns.[Q 2 -Q 4 ‘ 23 ]
Collaborating with The Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine one first ever crypto edu crypto program, further promoting Optimism brand, edu material, and practical cases ft. OP ecosystem protocols [Q 2 -Q 4 ‘ 23 ]
KyivTechSummit title sponsorship & hackathon prize pool [Q 3 ‘ 23 ]
Optimism Open NFT Call # 1 for 1 . 4 k+ Ukrainian NFT art community [Q 3 ’ 23 ]
2 nd OptimismUA community meetup [Q 3 ‘ 23 ]
OptimismUA NFT conference & OP Stack hackathon [Q 4 ‘ 23 ]
Optimism Open NFT Call # 2 for 1 . 4 k+ Ukrainian NFT art community [Q 4 ’ 23 ]
3 rd OptimismUA community meetup [Q 4 ‘ 23 ]
NOTE: If the proposal pases, we’re committed to provide monthly or quarterly (depending on the community feedback) reports, and get the funding necessary per quarter.
Why will incentivized users and liquidity on Optimism remain after incentives dry up?
We want to build a grassroots, long lasting community movement, so that Optimism will always have a beating heart in Ukraine. We want to onboard developers, creatives, and public goods fighters to the ecosystem for the long term.
Please provide any additional information that will facilitate accountability:
We’re putting our personal reputation and brand of our existing projects (Atlantis World, KyivTech, Unchain, etc) on the line, and it’s in our best interest to deliver on our promises. We’ve been actively building within the Optimism ecosystem for over half year now, and genuinely fell in love with the vision, values, tech and beloved OP community. We’re happy to build OptimismUA in public, share the reports needed and keep ourselves accountable, being part of Optimism ecosystem ourselves.
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Proposal execution / implementation life cycle tooling
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 19, 2022, 4:12 p.m.
Content: UPD: I found this thread from early Sep Governance Update # 4 4 after searching “reflection period” which I found mentioned as coming up in another thread… I deff think we can improve this flow!
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Season 2 Feedback Thread
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 19, 2022, 4:11 p.m.
Content: Where to learn more and/or get involved with "Reflection Period"s? Thanks
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Optimism Foundation Board Introductions
by cjh - No Role
Posted on: Nov. 19, 2022, 4:06 p.m.
Content: Hey Abbey! Catching up with your talk linked in Denver- love it! I totally agree about governance at large being an off chain social thing. I’m curious though about how we can better document the implementation of proposals after they’re passed so that folks could pro actively participate / contribute?
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