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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 28, 2024, 2:36 p.m.
  Content: Interesting perspective. Do you feel like an initiative like this has a negative effect on what you’ve accomplished in some way? I’m trying to understand what you find slightly insulting. Like, do you see this as some kind of training wheels that suggests women can’t actually make it in crypto without some extra help? And maybe the same principle would apply to any other identity based program?
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 17, 2024, 7:09 p.m.
  Content: It’s a good question. I’m not sure I have a good answer, but I’ll share some thoughts that have emerged for me, maybe it moves something for you and/or others. My first thought was “you make what you measure” which begs the question, what do we want to make? Everyone’s got their own answer, but since we’re talking about diversity and inclusion statistics… As far as I understand it, the intent behind diversity and inclusion seems to be about distributing the ability for individuals to affect change on reality - make decisions, earn money, influence the culture, learn things, etc. - across a broad audience with a wide range of experiences. We want to make the world we live in more balanced, more reflective of the wants/needs/desires of the many rather than the few. If anyone thinks that’s wrong or incomplete, I am very interested in feedback. Assuming for the moment that’s close enough to play with, it is extremely aligned with my understanding of the intent behind web 3 . Collectively we might label the ability to affect change on reality as “power” (though I’m not stoked about that word since it carries some cultural baggage). Everyone has some amount of power by this definition, but on the whole of humanity there is a huge disparity. Some of the ways web 3 is distributing power are through open currency design and issuance, codified group decision making, asynchronous/semi-autonomous workflows, and cultural evolution. There’s probably a lot more and these four themselves could be extensively unpacked, but I’m just spitballing here. Since we’re in the middle of legacy → web 3 transition it might make more sense to try and conceptualize some kind of end game for crypto to consider for data/metrics - since this will influence how and what we build - rather than just looking at where we are today. There’s a bit of a catch- 22 here though, since we want everyone to weigh in on that end game vision. Otherwise we’re just repeating old problems where a handful of people make decisions that affect everyone. Maybe what the current “we” needs to measure is the distribution of voice and how it translates to actions. Maybe the data for voice is in social graphs, community participation, DAO votes, token holders, etc. Quantity is straightforward to measure, but to figure out how well voice translates to action would require sifting out some kind of summaries or context. Then we could look at github projects, grant allocations, DAO proposals and things like that to see how reflective actions are of voice. Some questions I will be thinking about: What constitutes “voice” in web 3 ? What is the current distribution of voice? How can the distribution be improved? What does “improved distribution” mean? What is the correlation between the content of voice and implemented actions? I wrote what’s above yesterday and saw something to add. Crypto obscures demographic information by design. There’s certainly some digging one can do to get a sense of things, but since anti-sybil technology that preserves privacy is moving along fast and since we’re working in the digital sphere where we can put 4 billion perspectives in the same interface, maybe it makes more sense to just measure how many anti-sybil accounts exist (if half of the world has one it’s probably pretty diverse, if all of the world has one it’s as diverse as possible) and then focus on their “voice” data and how it translates to actions. One last thing I want to share on the “potential harm” topic. Curious to hear any feedback on this. It’s by no means thoroughly researched (maybe the poo emojis give that away), just my intuition from talking with lots of people about it over the years. Particularly interested to hear from @katie and/or @ 0 xDonPepe if y’all have anything to add. image 1229 × 649 98 . 9 KB
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 17, 2024, 3:09 p.m.
  Content: It’s a good question. I’m not sure I have a good answer, but I’ll share some thoughts that have emerged for me, maybe it moves something for you and/or others. My first thought was “you make what you measure” which begs the question, what do we want to make? Everyone’s got their own answer, but since we’re talking about diversity and inclusion statistics… As far as I understand it, the intent behind diversity and inclusion seems to be about distributing the ability for individuals to affect change on reality - make decisions, earn money, influence the culture, learn things, etc. - across a broad audience with a wide range of experiences. We want to make the world we live in more balanced, more reflective of the wants/needs/desires of the many rather than the few. If anyone thinks that’s wrong or incomplete, I am very interested in feedback. Assuming for the moment that’s close enough to play with, it is extremely aligned with my understanding of the intent behind web 3 . Collectively we might label the ability to affect change on reality as “power” (though I’m not stoked about that word since it carries some cultural baggage). Everyone has some amount of power by this definition, but on the whole of humanity there is a huge disparity. Some of the ways web 3 is distributing power are through open currency design and issuance, codified group decision making, asynchronous/semi-autonomous workflows, and cultural evolution. There’s probably a lot more and these four themselves could be extensively unpacked, but I’m just spitballing here. Since we’re in the middle of legacy → web 3 transition it might make more sense to try and conceptualize some kind of end game for crypto to consider for data/metrics - since this will influence how and what we build - rather than just looking at where we are today. There’s a bit of a catch- 22 here though, since we want everyone to weigh in on that end game vision. Otherwise we’re just repeating old problems where a handful of people make decisions that affect everyone. Maybe what the current “we” needs to measure is the distribution of voice and how it translates to actions. Maybe the data for voice is in social graphs, community participation, DAO votes, token holders, etc. Quantity is straightforward to measure, but to figure out how well voice translates to action would require sifting out some kind of summaries or context. Then we could look at github projects, grant allocations, DAO proposals and things like that to see how reflective actions are of voice. Some questions I will be thinking about: What constitutes “voice” in web 3 ? What is the current distribution of voice? How can the distribution be improved? What does “improved distribution” mean? What is the correlation between the content of voice and implemented actions? I wrote what’s above yesterday and saw something to add. Crypto obscures demographic information by design. There’s certainly some digging one can do to get a sense of things, but since anti-sybil technology that preserves privacy is moving along fast and since we’re working in the digital sphere where we can put 4 billion perspectives in the same interface, maybe it makes more sense to just measure how many anti-sybil accounts exist (if half of the world has one it’s probably pretty diverse, if all of the world has one it’s as diverse as possible) and then focus on their “voice” data and how it translates to actions. One last thing I want to share on the “potential harm” topic. Curious to hear any feedback on this. It’s by no means thoroughly researched (maybe the poo emojis give that away), just my intuition from talking with lots of people about it over the years. Particularly interested to hear from @katie and/or @ 0 xDonPepe if y’all have anything to add. image 1229 × 649 98 . 9 KB
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 15, 2024, 2:11 p.m.
  Content: Super cool to read all these stories about the impact this project is having on so many lives and how many new brains are tuning in to what’s happening :slight_smile: Also interesting to see how many men are on the “teachers and mentors” list on the bootcamp website, and to learn that WomenBiz hosts events open to men. Makes me think of the project’s purpose as less about exclusion and more about creating another north star to focus collective energy. It seems like every new north star produces another puzzle piece to the overall picture of what crypto is really doing for society. Interested to see what pieces emerge from this and fit them into my own limited view of the big picture. I always seem to get a boost of inspiration and creativity when a new one comes along. Stuff I hadn’t - and couldn’t have - thought about on my own. Good times. @MonicaTalan - I find it interesting that the two stats you’ve chosen to include are about jobs and leadership positions. I fully realize those are relevant to the current state of crypto as we transition from legacy systems, but my idealistic/optimistic hope is that “jobs” (especially “leadership positions”) are something we can evolve beyond. Honestly, if we don’t, I will likely consider the whole thing a failure. I went down the rabbit hole a bit on the link you dropped and found this quote from Vernā Myers, the head of inclusion at Netflix - "Diversity is being invited to the party, inclusion is being asked to dance.” My question is, what if the party sucks? Do you even want an invite?
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 15, 2024, 10:11 a.m.
  Content: Super cool to read all these stories about the impact this project is having on so many lives and how many new brains are tuning in to what’s happening :slight_smile: Also interesting to see how many men are on the “teachers and mentors” list on the bootcamp website, and to learn that WomenBiz hosts events open to men. Makes me think of the project’s purpose as less about exclusion and more about creating another north star to focus collective energy. It seems like every new north star produces another puzzle piece to the overall picture of what crypto is really doing for society. Interested to see what pieces emerge from this and fit them into my own limited view of the big picture. I always seem to get a boost of inspiration and creativity when a new one comes along. Stuff I hadn’t - and couldn’t have - thought about on my own. Good times. @MonicaTalan - I find it interesting that the two stats you’ve chosen to include are about jobs and leadership positions. I fully realize those are relevant to the current state of crypto as we transition from legacy systems, but my idealistic/optimistic hope is that “jobs” (especially “leadership positions”) are something we can evolve beyond. Honestly, if we don’t, I will likely consider the whole thing a failure. I went down the rabbit hole a bit on the link you dropped and found this quote from Vernā Myers, the head of inclusion at Netflix - "Diversity is being invited to the party, inclusion is being asked to dance.” My question is, what if the party sucks? Do you even want an invite?
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 7, 2024, 6:38 p.m.
  Content: The reason I asked about harm is because if we can’t find anything potentially harmful about it, then why suppress it? To me “not doing good” isn’t enough to justify trying to stop or change something that someone else wants to do. To continue with the token gating example, yes, anyone that owns the token can participate, but that’s a filter all on its own, isn’t it? Not everyone has disposable income for participation tokens, not everyone can navigate crypto well enough to figure out how to buy a token, not everyone has a phone with internet access. Every group seems to have some kind of filter, whether intentional or not. Based on your last comment I’m wondering if you are pointing at the difficulty for an individual to overcome a filter being where the issue could lie. Like, it’s easier to earn some money to buy a token to join a group than to change your DNA. Does that resonate for you? Is there something still missing? I’m very interested in this problem of exclusion and appreciate the dialogue here. I think it would be incredible to have a single app or interface where every human on Earth is participating somehow.
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 7, 2024, 2:38 p.m.
  Content: The reason I asked about harm is because if we can’t find anything potentially harmful about it, then why suppress it? To me “not doing good” isn’t enough to justify trying to stop or change something that someone else wants to do. To continue with the token gating example, yes, anyone that owns the token can participate, but that’s a filter all on its own, isn’t it? Not everyone has disposable income for participation tokens, not everyone can navigate crypto well enough to figure out how to buy a token, not everyone has a phone with internet access. Every group seems to have some kind of filter, whether intentional or not. Based on your last comment I’m wondering if you are pointing at the difficulty for an individual to overcome a filter being where the issue could lie. Like, it’s easier to earn some money to buy a token to join a group than to change your DNA. Does that resonate for you? Is there something still missing? I’m very interested in this problem of exclusion and appreciate the dialogue here. I think it would be incredible to have a single app or interface where every human on Earth is participating somehow.
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 6, 2024, 11:32 p.m.
  Content: Couple questions: What kind of potential harm (to crypto as whole, this group in particular, individuals, etc.) can you imagine might result here? Is there a difference between this focus and something like token gating? I would love to hear the counterargument on why these types of initiatives are necessary and what the intended benefit is here. I can see an argument for specialization/focus to bring out a specific kind of product, if that’s the intention. Openness creates more diversity in opinions and perspectives, which is often quite valuable, but it can also dilute things. I think part of “open, permissionless, borderless” includes the opportunity for groups to define boundaries. In the larger picture, having lots of micro experiments - some focused and others broad - ends up giving the entire ecosystem more anti-fragility.
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• Bootcamp Women in Web3 by Women Biz by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 6, 2024, 7:32 p.m.
  Content: Couple questions: What kind of potential harm (to crypto as whole, this group in particular, individuals, etc.) can you imagine might result here? Is there a difference between this focus and something like token gating? I would love to hear the counterargument on why these types of initiatives are necessary and what the intended benefit is here. I can see an argument for specialization/focus to bring out a specific kind of product, if that’s the intention. Openness creates more diversity in opinions and perspectives, which is often quite valuable, but it can also dilute things. I think part of “open, permissionless, borderless” includes the opportunity for groups to define boundaries. In the larger picture, having lots of micro experiments - some focused and others broad - ends up giving the entire ecosystem more anti-fragility.
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• Culture Blocks - Co-created memes that can be linked together to form complex cultures and social graphs by maenswirony - No Role
  Posted on: April 5, 2024, 8:17 p.m.
  Content: Thanks :slight_smile: Would love to hear your thoughts on the limitations of decentralized governance. Originally my idea was to make this a group decision making process (sociocracy/holocracy style) to build the structural pieces of organizations one piece at a time (name, purpose, roles, apps used, etc.). A group of us were playing with it as a discord bot when AI took off last March or so and we stumbled into the idea of summarizing our conversations. On the one hand it gets a little more difficult to be precise about the output you want, but on the other it removes the need to propose and consent to final blocks. It also takes away ownership over that final block which makes it emergent and collectively owned. Very interesting.
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