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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 13, 2024, 11:12 a.m.
  Content: Hi @chaselb, I think you’re under-estimating the stickiness of delegation. Most users who have delegated have done so passively, with a set-it, forget-it mentality. While Optimism’s airdrops reward this passive behavior, direct incentives provide an opportunity to actively direct delegation, allowing for those who have delegated to inactive delegates, who have not participated or engaged in governance, to be compensated w/ more governance power (OP) in order to direct their voting weight towards valuable contributors. These types of quests might be less effective if conducted on a rolling basis, but as an experiment over a few months I think it’s hard to argue the potential benefits here for the ecosystem at large. One just needs to take a look at voting on the current Mission Requests to understand the need for greater participation… Happy to answer further questions :). Delegateion Case Study 960 × 540 85 . 6 KB Example: In previous experiments 3 , we’ve found that delegation from these types of incentives are extremely sticky, with 83 % retention.
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 9, 2024, 1:55 p.m.
  Content: Valid concern! I think some of the possibilities are really interesting. Ideally these campaigns are iterative, with feedback loops and thesis to measure against. tnorm: Campaign Examples: Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates. Re-Delegation Campaign Specifications for re-delegation campaign could be designed using many criteria, but one example would be to incentivize people delegated to delegates who have never voted, to delegate instead towards a range of performant or active delegates. Whitelisting/exclusion listing for this kind of incentive means that you could essentially target delegates based on any criteria, but to simplify let’s use the examples below: Inactive delegates are defined as delegates that have voted on less than 25 % of active Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals. Active delegates are defined as those who have voted on > 75 % of Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals. This could increase the OP participating in governance dramatically. Furthermore, other delegation incentives could also be structured to target diversification, reward up-and-coming delegates, etc. But you are right that incentive design in this sense is absolutely critical.
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 6, 2024, 4:32 p.m.
  Content: @Tane We had some initial confusion around the template as well as confusion around the approval process. Certainly agree we have received mixed messages across the board here. The intent was certainly not to siphon of funds to one protocol, it’s simply asking for funds to allocate towards delegation incentives (which would mostly flow to users!). For context, 200 K OP represents 3 % of 6 . 8 M OP, which was the amount distributed across 57 , 204 Optimism delegators during the Airdrop 2 , which was considered effective. We feel as though regardless of who executes this strategy, 200 K OP is an appropriate amount to distribute towards such an expiremental incentive program towards rewarding active delegation (rather than retroactive). Our understanding was delegates would be deciding which applicants, assuming the mission is approved, receive funding (perhaps we could divide the share amongst the accepted applicants based on percentage of votes, or evenly above a threshold?). This does complicate things at the admin level, however.
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 6, 2024, 3:37 p.m.
  Content: @op_julian It looks like you’ve assigned an ineligible delegate to our proposal as a reviewer :sweat_smile:. Had some back and forth here so that is good to know. We are definitely still interested in moving this forward. We’ll ask around. @Tane Is there something we could clarify to get your endorsement?
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  • Tane: We thought there were 4 qualified approvals from Top 100 delegates if raho’s approval is considered valid. @op_julian or @Gonna.eth or someone should clarify if it’s not the case, otherwise it’s pretty confusing to applicants and delegates who approve. Our concern is that this Request, as it seemed to be originally created like an application for RabbitHole, is targeted only for one protocol to grab a huge 200k OP allocation. We also recognize that it’s possible for other protocols to apply and the Request itself clarify multiple applicants to be able to apply, thus we would like to ask if any cap is to be applied for each application if we are to decide for an approval.
  • op_julian: @tnorm @Tane my mistake – I was looking at a tracking sheet that had yet to be updated. Thank you for the clarification. It looks like you are indeed ready to vote!
• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 5, 2024, 10:54 p.m.
  Content: @lavande @Gonna.eth I think we are ready to vote!
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 5, 2024, 5:54 p.m.
  Content: @lavande @Gonna.eth I think we are ready to vote!
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 5, 2024, 5:30 p.m.
  Content: Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this confirmed now? Can you confirm the amounts of delegates we need to get to comment in the next 48 hours? Two more?
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Feb. 5, 2024, 12:30 p.m.
  Content: Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this confirmed now? Can you confirm the amounts of delegates we need to get to comment in the next 48 hours? Two more?
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Jan. 30, 2024, 5:06 p.m.
  Content: All good now? Thanks!
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• [READY TO VOTE] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request by tnorm - No Role
  Posted on: Jan. 30, 2024, 12:06 p.m.
  Content: All good now? Thanks!
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