*This proposal has been posted on behalf of RabbitHole.
Delegate Mission Request Summary
This initiative aims to continue the development of open-source infrastructure for the Optimism Collective towards strategically enabling the governance-related incentives to achieve objectives of: increasing OP votable supply, increasing active OP delegations, and rewarding beneficial delegate behavior (including participation and involvement).
S 5 Intent Please list the Intent your Request aligns with here:
Intent 4 : Improve Governance Accessibility
837 × 421 60 . 2 KB
Proposing Delegate:
Rabbithole
Proposal Tier:
Fledgling
Baseline grant amount:
200 , 000 OP
Should this Foundation Mission be fulfilled by one or multiple applicants:
Multiple
Submit by: To be set by Grants Council
Selection by: To be set by Grants Council
Start date: ASAP
Completion date: 8 / 31 / 2024
If applicable. Please note Missions must be completed within 12 months (i.e. marked as done).
Specification
How will this Delegate Mission Request help accomplish the above Intent?
The requested mission seeks to create an open-source infrastructure tailored for governance purposes, aimed at facilitating governance-related incentives. Its central role is to foster the growth and development of the Optimism Collective. Moreover, it is intended to build upon previous Optimism delegation research to lay a robust groundwork for governance incentives, particularly to enhance the expansion of the Token House.
The mission will pave the way for innovative governance experiments, educational initiatives, and possibly even a new range of governance-centric products and services, all developed utilizing the open-source infrastructure. In deploying this open source SDK, we believe that we can make a large impact in a rather unexplored area of governance incentives, and hopefully pave the way for others to build and iterate upon governance design expirementations/iterations implementations in a permissionless, decentralized environment.
Please explain alignment with the relevant Intent
The mission proposal is strategically aligned with Intent # 4 : Enhance Governance Accessibility. Its fundamental objective revolves around the provision of specialized tooling and infrastructure designed to implement incentives, with a clear goal of expanding the votable supply of OP.
Furthermore, the open-source nature of the SDK underpins this mission’s objective to motivate developers to engage with these tools for executing various controlled governance experiments. By concurrently supporting governance incentives and tool development, we are confident that this mission will significantly influence governance contributors, researchers, and the evolution of future tooling. This initiative is anticipated to have a direct and meaningful impact on the ease of governance participation on the OP mainnet.
What is required to execute this Delegate Mission Request?
Development
Plug-ins
Frontend
Campaign Planning
Partnerships and Marketing Coordination
Promotion of Quests and DAO
Quest Design and Coordination
Delegation Campaign
Quest Operations
Promotion
Campaign Analysis and Retrospective
Please list responsibilities and/or expected deliverables
Deliverable 1 : Open Source quest plugins with built-in governance incentivization enabled (i.e. Agora Quests). Anybody will have the ability to deploy a frontend to support governance-based quests on OP Mainnet, add support of governance-based quests to their existing frontend, or deploy quests.
Plug-in development includes:
Allowlist capabilities enabling supporting delegation to one-of-many delegate addresses (rather than just one target address)
Vote Plug-in Action Type
Frontend development includes:
Creation of a quest or incentive gateway for users.
Deliverable 2 : One month of concurrent campaigns comprising:
Governance quest rollout which includes incentives for:
Delegates
Customizable quest parameters enable quests incentivizing further governance power distribution (ie incentivize delegator diversity)
Delegators
New/Existing
Historically Active Governance Participants
Campaign Examples:
New Delegations Campaign: Target new delegators to delegate OP.
Claimer Delegation Campaign: Target all OP incentive claimants to delegate to delegates.
Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates.
Collaborative co-marketing events in which ecosystem stakeholders and protocols can educate the broader ecosystem on delegation, funneling new delegates → incentives:
Twitter spaces
Deliverable 3 : Data and analytics, including a project-specific Dune Dashboard.
How should the Token House measure progress towards this Mission?
Quest contracts deployed: n/n
Quest governance parameters enabled: n/n
Collaborative governance marketing event announced: 1 / 1
OP quest incentives deployed: n/n
OP delegated via quests: n/n
How should badgeholders measure impact upon completion of this Mission?
Quest creators: quest contract deployments.
Quest completions: claims from contracts.
Delegators: number of delegators sourced via quests.
Delegated OP: cumulative number of OP delegated via quests.
Quest incentive RoI: increase in governance metrics as a ratio of costs to incentivize.
Have you engaged a Grant-as-a-service provider for this Mission Request?
No.
Has anyone other than the Proposing Delegate contributed to this Mission Request?
StableLab
The proposal by RabbitHole aims to develop open-source infrastructure for the Optimism Collective, focusing on governance-related incentives to increase OP votable supply, active OP delegations, and rewarding beneficial delegate behavior. The initiative aligns with Intent #4: Improve Governance Accessibility and includes various deliverables such as creating plugins, frontend interfaces, campaigns, partnerships, and analytics. The proposal seeks to enhance governance participation on the OP mainnet by facilitating governance incentives and expanding tool development through open-source SDK deployment.
Gonna.eth: tnorm:
[DRAFT] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request
Hey @tnorm your proposal has 4 approvals so I changed the Title from “Draf” to “Ready to Vote”, but you still have a 2nd title inside the proposal do you mind removing it to avoid confusion? congrats on your approvals!
tnorm: Valid concern!
I think some of the possibilities are really interesting. Ideally these campaigns are iterative, with feedback loops and thesis to measure against.
tnorm:
Campaign Examples:
Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates.
Re-Delegation Campaign
Specifications for re-delegation campaign could be designed using many criteria, but one example would be to incentivize people delegated to delegates who have never voted, to delegate instead towards a range of performant or active delegates.
Whitelisting/exclusion listing for this kind of incentive means that you could essentially target delegates based on any criteria, but to simplify let’s use the examples below:
Inactive delegates are defined as delegates that have voted on less than 25% of active Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
Active delegates are defined as those who have voted on > 75% of Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
This could increase the OP participating in governance dramatically. Furthermore, other delegation incentives could also be structured to target diversification, reward up-and-coming delegates, etc. But you are right that incentive design in this sense is absolutely critical.
*This proposal has been posted on behalf of RabbitHole.
Delegate Mission Request Summary
This initi…
*This proposal has been posted on behalf of RabbitHole.
Delegate Mission Request Summary
This initiative aims to continue the development of open-source infrastructure for the Optimism Collective towards strategically enabling the governance-related incentives to achieve objectives of: increasing OP votable supply, increasing active OP delegations, and rewarding beneficial delegate behavior (including participation and involvement).
S 5 Intent 1 Please list the Intent your Request aligns with here:
Intent 4 : Improve Governance Accessibility
837 × 421 60 . 2 KB
Proposing Delegate:
Rabbithole
Proposal Tier 4 :
Fledgling
Baseline grant amount:
200 , 000 OP
Should this Foundation Mission be fulfilled by one or multiple applicants:
Multiple
Submit by: To be set by Grants Council
Selection by: To be set by Grants Council
Start date: ASAP
Completion date: 8 / 31 / 2024
If applicable. Please note Missions must be completed within 12 months (i.e. marked as done).
Specification
How will this Delegate Mission Request help accomplish the above Intent?
The requested mission seeks to create an open-source infrastructure tailored for governance purposes, aimed at facilitating governance-related incentives. Its central role is to foster the growth and development of the Optimism Collective. Moreover, it is intended to build upon previous Optimism delegation research 7 to lay a robust groundwork for governance incentives, particularly to enhance the expansion of the Token House.
The mission will pave the way for innovative governance experiments, educational initiatives, and possibly even a new range of governance-centric products and services, all developed utilizing the open-source infrastructure. In deploying this open source SDK, we believe that we can make a large impact in a rather unexplored area of governance incentives, and hopefully pave the way for others to build and iterate upon governance design expirementations/iterations implementations in a permissionless, decentralized environment.
Please explain alignment with the relevant Intent
The mission proposal is strategically aligned with Intent # 4 : Enhance Governance Accessibility. Its fundamental objective revolves around the provision of specialized tooling and infrastructure designed to implement incentives, with a clear goal of expanding the votable supply of OP.
Furthermore, the open-source nature of the SDK underpins this mission’s objective to motivate developers to engage with these tools for executing various controlled governance experiments. By concurrently supporting governance incentives and tool development, we are confident that this mission will significantly influence governance contributors, researchers, and the evolution of future tooling. This initiative is anticipated to have a direct and meaningful impact on the ease of governance participation on the OP mainnet.
What is required to execute this Delegate Mission Request?
Development
Plug-ins
Frontend
Campaign Planning
Partnerships and Marketing Coordination
Promotion of Quests and DAO
Quest Design and Coordination
Delegation Campaign
Quest Operations
Promotion
Campaign Analysis and Retrospective
Please list responsibilities and/or expected deliverables
Deliverable 1 : Open Source quest plugins with built-in governance incentivization enabled (i.e. Agora Quests 11 ). Anybody will have the ability to deploy a frontend to support governance-based quests on OP Mainnet, add support of governance-based quests to their existing frontend, or deploy quests.
Plug-in development includes:
Allowlist capabilities enabling supporting delegation to one-of-many delegate addresses (rather than just one target address)
Vote Plug-in Action Type
Frontend development includes:
Creation of a quest or incentive gateway for users.
Deliverable 2 : One month of concurrent campaigns comprising:
Governance quest rollout which includes incentives for:
Delegates
Customizable quest parameters enable quests incentivizing further governance power distribution (ie incentivize delegator diversity)
Delegators
New/Existing
Historically Active Governance Participants
Campaign Examples:
New Delegations Campaign: Target new delegators to delegate OP.
Claimer Delegation Campaign: Target all OP incentive claimants to delegate to delegates.
Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates.
Collaborative co-marketing events in which ecosystem stakeholders and protocols can educate the broader ecosystem on delegation, funneling new delegates → incentives:
Twitter spaces
Deliverable 3 : Data and analytics, including a project-specific Dune Dashboard.
How should the Token House measure progress towards this Mission?
Quest contracts deployed: n/n
Quest governance parameters enabled: n/n
Collaborative governance marketing event announced: 1 / 1
OP quest incentives deployed: n/n
OP delegated via quests: n/n
How should badgeholders measure impact upon completion of this Mission?
Quest creators: quest contract deployments.
Quest completions: claims from contracts.
Delegators: number of delegators sourced via quests.
Delegated OP: cumulative number of OP delegated via quests.
Quest incentive RoI: increase in governance metrics as a ratio of costs to incentivize.
Have you engaged a Grant-as-a-service provider for this Mission Request?
No.
Has anyone other than the Proposing Delegate contributed to this Mission Request?
StableLab
Gonna.eth: tnorm:
[DRAFT] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request
Hey @tnorm your proposal has 4 approvals so I changed the Title from “Draf” to “Ready to Vote”, but you still have a 2nd title inside the proposal do you mind removing it to avoid confusion? congrats on your approvals!
tnorm: Valid concern!
I think some of the possibilities are really interesting. Ideally these campaigns are iterative, with feedback loops and thesis to measure against.
tnorm:
Campaign Examples:
Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates.
Re-Delegation Campaign
Specifications for re-delegation campaign could be designed using many criteria, but one example would be to incentivize people delegated to delegates who have never voted, to delegate instead towards a range of performant or active delegates.
Whitelisting/exclusion listing for this kind of incentive means that you could essentially target delegates based on any criteria, but to simplify let’s use the examples below:
Inactive delegates are defined as delegates that have voted on less than 25% of active Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
Active delegates are defined as those who have voted on > 75% of Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
This could increase the OP participating in governance dramatically. Furthermore, other delegation incentives could also be structured to target diversification, reward up-and-coming delegates, etc. But you are right that incentive design in this sense is absolutely critical.
It seems to me a very good proposal. Let me understand something, is this mission to be executed by…
It seems to me a very good proposal. Let me understand something, is this mission to be executed by StableLabs and RabbitHole?
*This proposal has been posted on behalf of RabbitHole. Delegate Mission Request Summary This initi…
*This proposal has been posted on behalf of RabbitHole. Delegate Mission Request Summary This initiative aims to continue the development of open-source infrastructure for the Optimism Collective towards strategically enabling the governance-related incentives to achieve objectives of: increasing OP votable supply, increasing active OP delegations, and rewarding beneficial delegate behavior (including participation and involvement). S 5 Intent 1 Please list the Intent your Request aligns with here: Intent 4 : Improve Governance Accessibility 837 × 421 60 . 2 KB Proposing Delegate: Rabbithole Proposal Tier 3 : Fledgling Baseline grant amount: 200 , 000 OP Should this Foundation Mission be fulfilled by one or multiple applicants: Multiple Submit by: To be set by Grants Council Selection by: To be set by Grants Council Start date: ASAP Completion date: 8 / 31 / 2024 If applicable. Please note Missions must be completed within 12 months (i.e. marked as done). Specification How will this Delegate Mission Request help accomplish the above Intent? The requested mission seeks to create an open-source infrastructure tailored for governance purposes, aimed at facilitating governance-related incentives. Its central role is to foster the growth and development of the Optimism Collective. Moreover, it is intended to build upon previous Optimism delegation research 6 to lay a robust groundwork for governance incentives, particularly to enhance the expansion of the Token House. The mission will pave the way for innovative governance experiments, educational initiatives, and possibly even a new range of governance-centric products and services, all developed utilizing the open-source infrastructure. In deploying this open source SDK, we believe that we can make a large impact in a rather unexplored area of governance incentives, and hopefully pave the way for others to build and iterate upon governance design expirementations/iterations implementations in a permissionless, decentralized environment. Please explain alignment with the relevant Intent The mission proposal is strategically aligned with Intent # 4 : Enhance Governance Accessibility. Its fundamental objective revolves around the provision of specialized tooling and infrastructure designed to implement incentives, with a clear goal of expanding the votable supply of OP. Furthermore, the open-source nature of the SDK underpins this mission’s objective to motivate developers to engage with these tools for executing various controlled governance experiments. By concurrently supporting governance incentives and tool development, we are confident that this mission will significantly influence governance contributors, researchers, and the evolution of future tooling. This initiative is anticipated to have a direct and meaningful impact on the ease of governance participation on the OP mainnet. What is required to execute this Delegate Mission Request? Development Plug-ins Frontend Campaign Planning Partnerships and Marketing Coordination Promotion of Quests and DAO Quest Design and Coordination Delegation Campaign Quest Operations Promotion Campaign Analysis and Retrospective Please list responsibilities and/or expected deliverables Deliverable 1 : Open Source quest plugins with built-in governance incentivization enabled (i.e. Agora Quests 10 ). Anybody will have the ability to deploy a frontend to support governance-based quests on OP Mainnet, add support of governance-based quests to their existing frontend, or deploy quests. Plug-in development includes: Allowlist capabilities enabling supporting delegation to one-of-many delegate addresses (rather than just one target address) Vote Plug-in Action Type Frontend development includes: Creation of a quest or incentive gateway for users. Deliverable 2 : One month of concurrent campaigns comprising: Governance quest rollout which includes incentives for: Delegates Customizable quest parameters enable quests incentivizing further governance power distribution (ie incentivize delegator diversity) Delegators New/Existing Historically Active Governance Participants Campaign Examples: New Delegations Campaign: Target new delegators to delegate OP. Claimer Delegation Campaign: Target all OP incentive claimants to delegate to delegates. Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates. Collaborative co-marketing events in which ecosystem stakeholders and protocols can educate the broader ecosystem on delegation, funneling new delegates → incentives: Twitter spaces Deliverable 3 : Data and analytics, including a project-specific Dune Dashboard. How should the Token House measure progress towards this Mission? Quest contracts deployed: n/n Quest governance parameters enabled: n/n Collaborative governance marketing event announced: 1 / 1 OP quest incentives deployed: n/n OP delegated via quests: n/n How should badgeholders measure impact upon completion of this Mission? Quest creators: quest contract deployments. Quest completions: claims from contracts. Delegators: number of delegators sourced via quests. Delegated OP: cumulative number of OP delegated via quests. Quest incentive RoI: increase in governance metrics as a ratio of costs to incentivize. Have you engaged a Grant-as-a-service provider for this Mission Request? No. Has anyone other than the Proposing Delegate contributed to this Mission Request? StableLab
Gonna.eth: tnorm:
[DRAFT] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request
Hey @tnorm your proposal has 4 approvals so I changed the Title from “Draf” to “Ready to Vote”, but you still have a 2nd title inside the proposal do you mind removing it to avoid confusion? congrats on your approvals!
tnorm: Valid concern!
I think some of the possibilities are really interesting. Ideally these campaigns are iterative, with feedback loops and thesis to measure against.
tnorm:
Campaign Examples:
Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates.
Re-Delegation Campaign
Specifications for re-delegation campaign could be designed using many criteria, but one example would be to incentivize people delegated to delegates who have never voted, to delegate instead towards a range of performant or active delegates.
Whitelisting/exclusion listing for this kind of incentive means that you could essentially target delegates based on any criteria, but to simplify let’s use the examples below:
Inactive delegates are defined as delegates that have voted on less than 25% of active Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
Active delegates are defined as those who have voted on > 75% of Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
This could increase the OP participating in governance dramatically. Furthermore, other delegation incentives could also be structured to target diversification, reward up-and-coming delegates, etc. But you are right that incentive design in this sense is absolutely critical.
Hi @tnorm! This looks like a Mission Application, not a Mission Request, to me. See further clarifi…
Hi @tnorm! This looks like a Mission Application, not a Mission Request, to me. See further clarification here.
Hi @tnorm! This looks like a Mission Application, not a Mission Request, to me. See further clarifi…
Hi @tnorm! This looks like a Mission Application, not a Mission Request, to me. See further clarification here. 9
It seems to me a very good proposal. Let me understand something, is this mission to be executed by…
It seems to me a very good proposal. Let me understand something, is this mission to be executed by StableLabs and RabbitHole?
Mission Requests specify work to be done, not who will do it.
Hi @tnorm, this looks like an applica…
Mission Requests specify work to be done, not who will do it.
Hi @tnorm, this looks like an application for this type of mission:
[READY TO VOTE] Builders grants program mission request ? Mission Requests
Delegate Mission Request Summary:
This mission request will allow the builders grants program that was run in previous seasons to continue in S 5 . This Mission Request focuses on continuing the builder’s grants process, as in seasons 3 and 4 , to foster builder growth on OP Mainnet.
S 5 Intent:
Aligned with Intent # 2 : Grow the Superchain
Proposing Delegate: Gonna.eth
Proposal Tier:
Ember
Baseline grant amount:
1 . 500 . 000 OP ( 50 k OP Each)
Should this Foundation Mission be fulfilled by one o…
you will be able to apply on Feb 1 st.
Hi @tnorm! This looks like a Mission Application, not a Mission Request, to me. See further clarifi…
Hi @tnorm! This looks like a Mission Application, not a Mission Request, to me. See further clarification here. 9
Ah got it! Fixed this, apologies. Adjusted this to make it a Mission Request (hopefully)! Think it …
Ah got it! Fixed this, apologies. Adjusted this to make it a Mission Request (hopefully)! Think it would be great to see how this objective as a mission request is prioritized by the community.
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to mov…
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
Note: For disclosure, I am an employee at Rabbithole
I am an Optimism delegate 4 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to…
I am an Optimism delegate 4 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
Note: For disclosure, I am an employee at Rabbithole
Mission Requests specify work to be done, not who will do it. Hi @tnorm, this looks like an applica…
Mission Requests specify work to be done, not who will do it. Hi @tnorm, this looks like an application for this type of mission: [READY TO VOTE] Builders grants program mission request ? Mission Requests Delegate Mission Request Summary: This mission request will allow the builders grants program that was run in previous seasons to continue in S 5 . This Mission Request focuses on continuing the builder’s grants process, as in seasons 3 and 4 , to foster builder growth on OP Mainnet. S 5 Intent: Aligned with Intent # 2 : Grow the Superchain Proposing Delegate: Gonna.eth Proposal Tier: Ember Baseline grant amount: 1 . 500 . 000 OP ( 50 k OP Each) Should this Foundation Mission be fulfilled by one o… you will be able to apply on Feb 1 st.
Ah got it! Fixed this, apologies. Adjusted this to make it a Mission Request (hopefully)! Think it …
Ah got it! Fixed this, apologies. Adjusted this to make it a Mission Request (hopefully)! Think it would be great to see how this objective as a mission request is prioritized by the community.
I am an Optimism delegate 4 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to…
I am an Optimism delegate 4 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote. Note: For disclosure, I am an employee at Rabbithole
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to mov…
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
lavande: Great to see your support of this Mission! Just want to clarify that your approval will not count as one of the 4 required as you are listed as having contributed to the Request.
I am an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to…
I am an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
lavande: Great to see your support of this Mission! Just want to clarify that your approval will not count as one of the 4 required as you are listed as having contributed to the Request.
I am an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to…
I am an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
lavande: Great to see your support of this Mission! Just want to clarify that your approval will not count as one of the 4 required as you are listed as having contributed to the Request.
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move…
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move…
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
Great to see your support of this Mission! Just want to clarify that your approval will not count a…
Great to see your support of this Mission! Just want to clarify that your approval will not count as one of the 4 required as you are listed as having contributed to the Request.
Great to see your support of this Mission! Just want to clarify that your approval will not count a…
Great to see your support of this Mission! Just want to clarify that your approval will not count as one of the 4 required as you are listed as having contributed to the Request.
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move…
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move…
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
tnorm:
[DRAFT] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request
Hey @tnorm your proposal has 4 approva…
tnorm:
[DRAFT] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request
Hey @tnorm your proposal has 4 approvals so I changed the Title from “Draf” to “Ready to Vote”, but you still have a 2 nd title inside the proposal do you mind removing it to avoid confusion? congrats on your approvals!
tnorm: [DRAFT] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request Hey @tnorm your proposal has 4 approva…
tnorm: [DRAFT] Delegation Quest SDK Mission Request Hey @tnorm your proposal has 4 approvals so I changed the Title from “Draf” to “Ready to Vote”, but you still have a 2 nd title inside the proposal do you mind removing it to avoid confusion? congrats on your approvals!
Missed Lavande’s comment this is missing 1 approval to go to the Token House vote. Back to “Draft”
Missed Lavande’s comment this is missing 1 approval to go to the Token House vote. Back to “Draft”
tnorm: Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this confirmed now?
Can you confirm the amounts of delegates we need to get to comment in the next 48 hours? Two more?
Tane: Just wanted to clarify: @raho is also a part of Rabbithole, who is a contributor of this proposal, thus this request needs two more approvals to move to a vote?
Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this co…
Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this confirmed now?
Can you confirm the amounts of delegates we need to get to comment in the next 48 hours? Two more?
I think only one more is required.
Not considering @Matt_StableLab, Mission Request has got three a…
I think only one more is required.
Not considering @Matt_StableLab, Mission Request has got three approvals.
Missed Lavande’s comment this is missing 1 approval to go to the Token House vote. Back to “Draft”
Missed Lavande’s comment this is missing 1 approval to go to the Token House vote. Back to “Draft”
tnorm: Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this confirmed now?
Can you confirm the amounts of delegates we need to get to comment in the next 48 hours? Two more?
Tane: Just wanted to clarify: @raho is also a part of Rabbithole, who is a contributor of this proposal, thus this request needs two more approvals to move to a vote?
Just wanted to clarify: @raho is also a part of Rabbithole, who is a contributor of this proposal, …
Just wanted to clarify: @raho is also a part of Rabbithole, who is a contributor of this proposal, thus this request needs two more approvals to move to a vote?
raho: I am a delegate outside of RabbitHole, and have posted necessary disclosures as is procedure, in the spirit of transparency. I am personally a top 100 delegate, as is Rabbithole. As I have not contributed to the request, I am approving this on behalf of myself.
We are an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and believe this proposal is ready to …
We are an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
We are an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and believe this proposal is ready to move…
We are an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
I am a delegate outside of RabbitHole, and have posted necessary disclosures as is procedure, in th…
I am a delegate outside of RabbitHole, and have posted necessary disclosures as is procedure, in the spirit of transparency. I am personally a top 100 delegate, as is Rabbithole. As I have not contributed to the request, I am approving this on behalf of myself.
Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this co…
Dang, okay that’s why I tried to clarify we were all good above. So we have two days to get this confirmed now? Can you confirm the amounts of delegates we need to get to comment in the next 48 hours? Two more?
Understood, thanks for your clarification. This proposal seems ready for a vote!
Understood, thanks for your clarification. This proposal seems ready for a vote!
I think only one more is required. Not considering @Matt_StableLab, Mission Request has got three a…
I think only one more is required. Not considering @Matt_StableLab, Mission Request has got three approvals.
Just wanted to clarify: @raho is also a part of Rabbithole, who is a contributor of this proposal, …
Just wanted to clarify: @raho is also a part of Rabbithole, who is a contributor of this proposal, thus this request needs two more approvals to move to a vote?
raho: I am a delegate outside of RabbitHole, and have posted necessary disclosures as is procedure, in the spirit of transparency. I am personally a top 100 delegate, as is Rabbithole. As I have not contributed to the request, I am approving this on behalf of myself.
We are an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and believe this proposal is ready to …
We are an Optimism delegate 1 with sufficient voting power and believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
I am a delegate outside of RabbitHole, and have posted necessary disclosures as is procedure, in th…
I am a delegate outside of RabbitHole, and have posted necessary disclosures as is procedure, in the spirit of transparency. I am personally a top 100 delegate, as is Rabbithole. As I have not contributed to the request, I am approving this on behalf of myself.
Understood, thanks for your clarification. This proposal seems ready for a vote!
Understood, thanks for your clarification. This proposal seems ready for a vote!
@op_julian It looks like you’ve assigned an ineligible delegate to our proposal as a reviewer :swea…
@op_julian It looks like you’ve assigned an ineligible delegate to our proposal as a reviewer :sweat_smile:. Had some back and forth here so that is good to know. We are definitely still interested in moving this forward.
We’ll ask around. @Tane Is there something we could clarify to get your endorsement?
Tane: We thought there were 4 qualified approvals from Top 100 delegates if raho’s approval is considered valid. @op_julian or @Gonna.eth or someone should clarify if it’s not the case, otherwise it’s pretty confusing to applicants and delegates who approve.
Our concern is that this Request, as it seemed to be originally created like an application for RabbitHole, is targeted only for one protocol to grab a huge 200k OP allocation. We also recognize that it’s possible for other protocols to apply and the Request itself clarify multiple applicants to be able to apply, thus we would like to ask if any cap is to be applied for each application if we are to decide for an approval.
op_julian: @tnorm @Tane my mistake – I was looking at a tracking sheet that had yet to be updated. Thank you for the clarification. It looks like you are indeed ready to vote!
We thought there were 4 qualified approvals from Top 100 delegates if raho’s approval is consid…
We thought there were 4 qualified approvals from Top 100 delegates if raho’s approval is considered valid. @op_julian or @Gonna.eth or someone should clarify if it’s not the case, otherwise it’s pretty confusing to applicants and delegates who approve.
Our concern is that this Request, as it seemed to be originally created like an application for RabbitHole, is targeted only for one protocol to grab a huge 200 k OP allocation. We also recognize that it’s possible for other protocols to apply and the Request itself clarify multiple applicants to be able to apply, thus we would like to ask if any cap is to be applied for each application if we are to decide for an approval.
@Tane We had some initial confusion around the template as well as confusion around the approval pr…
@Tane We had some initial confusion around the template as well as confusion around the approval process. Certainly agree we have received mixed messages across the board here.
The intent was certainly not to siphon of funds to one protocol, it’s simply asking for funds to allocate towards delegation incentives (which would mostly flow to users!). For context, 200 K OP represents 3 % of 6 . 8 M OP, which was the amount distributed across 57 , 204 Optimism delegators during the Airdrop 2 , which was considered effective.
We feel as though regardless of who executes this strategy, 200 K OP is an appropriate amount to distribute towards such an expiremental incentive program towards rewarding active delegation (rather than retroactive).
Our understanding was delegates would be deciding which applicants, assuming the mission is approved, receive funding (perhaps we could divide the share amongst the accepted applicants based on percentage of votes, or evenly above a threshold?). This does complicate things at the admin level, however.
Thanks @tnorm for the clarifications!
tnorm:
The intent was certainly not to siphon of funds t…
Thanks @tnorm for the clarifications!
tnorm:
The intent was certainly not to siphon of funds to one protocol, it’s simply asking for funds to allocate towards delegation incentives (which would mostly flow to users!). For context, 200 K OP represents 3 % of 6 . 8 M OP, which was the amount distributed across 57 , 204 Optimism delegators during the Airdrop 2 , which was considered effective.
That makes a lot of sense. Basically, it’s similar to an ask in a STIP/LTIPP (we share the context in Arbitrum) application with incentives used for users, not only protocols. In that case, we are still not sure about how the grant is distributed to multiple applicants, or only the winner would get the whole amount for their application…
tnorm:
Our understanding was delegates would be deciding which applicants, assuming the mission is approved, receive funding (perhaps we could divide the share amongst the accepted applicants based on percentage of votes, or evenly above a threshold?).
Our understanding is that Grants Council plays a role in selecting applications based on each Mission Request, but we are still new to the process, so it might be wrong.
In any case, we believe promising applications on this request would make reasonable impacts in return of an assigned amount of incentives. We still want an answer on who’s qualified to give approvals, but here is our approval.
We are an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and believe this Request is ready to move to a vote.
@tnorm @Tane my mistake – I was looking at a tracking sheet that had yet to be updated. Thank you f…
@tnorm @Tane my mistake – I was looking at a tracking sheet that had yet to be updated. Thank you for the clarification. It looks like you are indeed ready to vote!
I see that this proposal already has enough approvals but anyway wanted to signal my support for th…
I see that this proposal already has enough approvals but anyway wanted to signal my support for the experimentation in that field. However, I would like to point out for potential future proposers that I would expect some further discussion on what are those actions/initiatives that we’d like to incentivize/reward in DAO governance using these mechanisms. My concern is that if we end up with wrong types of actions being incentivised we will be funding noise generation (meaningless activity) instead of valuable contributions, so we need to be careful about the execution on a particular mission proposal level.
Valid concern!
I think some of the possibilities are really interesting. Ideally these campaigns ar…
Valid concern!
I think some of the possibilities are really interesting. Ideally these campaigns are iterative, with feedback loops and thesis to measure against.
tnorm:
Campaign Examples:
Re-Delegation Campaign: Target current delegators to inactive delegates to re-delegate to Active Delegates.
Re-Delegation Campaign
Specifications for re-delegation campaign could be designed using many criteria, but one example would be to incentivize people delegated to delegates who have never voted, to delegate instead towards a range of performant or active delegates.
Whitelisting/exclusion listing for this kind of incentive means that you could essentially target delegates based on any criteria, but to simplify let’s use the examples below:
Inactive delegates are defined as delegates that have voted on less than 25 % of active Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
Active delegates are defined as those who have voted on > 75 % of Optimism Snapshot and Agora proposals.
This could increase the OP participating in governance dramatically. Furthermore, other delegation incentives could also be structured to target diversification, reward up-and-coming delegates, etc. But you are right that incentive design in this sense is absolutely critical.
I’m torn here. Although I appreciate the link to the researched paper on incentives, that paper spe…
I’m torn here. Although I appreciate the link to the researched paper on incentives, that paper specifically cited the fact that there’s an expectation for further governance rewards over a long time horizon as a key driver for successful outcomes. Also, since the foundation controls the airdrop requirements, the incentives aren’t as easily gamed. I don’t think these quests would be like that. I also think largescale governance incentives should probably be designed thoughfully over a long time horizon, which this mission is not requesting (rather, 1 month of concurrent campaigns). For these reasons I’m leaning towards non-approval.
tnorm: Hi @chaselb, I think you’re under-estimating the stickiness of delegation. Most users who have delegated have done so passively, with a set-it, forget-it mentality.
While Optimism’s airdrops reward this passive behavior, direct incentives provide an opportunity to actively direct delegation, allowing for those who have delegated to inactive delegates, who have not participated or engaged in governance, to be compensated w/ more governance power (OP) in order to direct their voting weight towards valuable contributors.
These types of quests might be less effective if conducted on a rolling basis, but as an experiment over a few months I think it’s hard to argue the potential benefits here for the ecosystem at large. One just needs to take a look at voting on the current Mission Requests to understand the need for greater participation…
Happy to answer further questions :).
Example: In previous experiments, we’ve found that delegation from these types of incentives are extremely sticky, with 83% retention.
The Grants Council has opened early submissions as an Indication of Interest for this mission reque…
The Grants Council has opened early submissions as an Indication of Interest for this mission request here 6
For your application to be considered, the Mission request must pass the Token House vote on February 14 th. Submissions will not be considered if a Mission Request is not approved on the 14 th.
Hi @chaselb, I think you’re under-estimating the stickiness of delegation. Most users who have dele…
Hi @chaselb, I think you’re under-estimating the stickiness of delegation. Most users who have delegated have done so passively, with a set-it, forget-it mentality.
While Optimism’s airdrops reward this passive behavior, direct incentives provide an opportunity to actively direct delegation, allowing for those who have delegated to inactive delegates, who have not participated or engaged in governance, to be compensated w/ more governance power (OP) in order to direct their voting weight towards valuable contributors.
These types of quests might be less effective if conducted on a rolling basis, but as an experiment over a few months I think it’s hard to argue the potential benefits here for the ecosystem at large. One just needs to take a look at voting on the current Mission Requests to understand the need for greater participation…
Happy to answer further questions :).
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Example: In previous experiments 3 , we’ve found that delegation from these types of incentives are extremely sticky, with 83 % retention.
